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TESL Canada Professional Certificate Standard Three?
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anvilman



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:21 pm    Post subject: TESL Canada Professional Certificate Standard Three? Reply with quote
Hi all,

I'm wondering if anybody has experience with the TESL Canada Professional
Certificate Standard 3?

I'm soon to complete an MA in TESL at UBC, have teaching experience and will complete a practicum. Once all of this is done, TESL Canada should certify me with the Standard 3 designation.

Has anybody out there received this and gone on the job market? How has it been received by employers? Any difference from those who attended a teacher-training program outside the universities?

Thanks for any feedback!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: TESL Canada Professional Certificate Standard Three? Reply with quote
anvilman wrote:
Has anybody out there received this and gone on the job market? How has it been received by employers?

For jobs outside of Canada? By the way, you might post this on the North American forum for better exposure.
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anvilman



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah, specifically international jobs.

Thanks for the tip.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have no knowledge of that particular qualification; however, the fact that your MA in TESL program includes a practical component should put you in competition for the better TEFL jobs abroad (contingent upon any additional qualifications/requirements). But generally, overseas employers like to see a teaching qualification/course that entailed at least 120 hours of onsite training and included supervised teaching practice with real adult learners.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi, anvilman, welcome to the forum! I don't recall whether the UBC practicum includes supervised teaching practice, but, assuming it does, you will be in good shape. (Surprisingly, it is not unknown for a program to claim a "teaching practicum" which offers participants many teaching hours, but not observation.) I've known more than one MA holder who proceeded directly from coursework to "teaching practice" without the benefit of observation and feedback. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
AGoodStory wrote:
Hi, anvilman, welcome to the forum! I don't recall whether the UBC practicum includes supervised teaching practice, but, assuming it does, you will be in good shape. (Surprisingly, it is not unknown for a program to claim a "teaching practicum" which offers participants many teaching hours, but not observation.) I've known more than one MA holder who proceeded directly from coursework to "teaching practice" without the benefit of observation and feedback. Confused


Thank you! I will make sure that I have a supervised and critiqued observation period, definitely.

Any idea how MA TESL holders fare in the international market?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
anvilman wrote:
Any idea how MA TESL holders fare in the international market?

Hmm... Odd question, but seriously, if your MA is relevant to English language teaching, then overseas employers will readily accept it. That is, assuming your major stands for Teaching English as a Second Language...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yup, that's the acronym.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Based on the questions you've posed thus far, I suggest you take a look at job ads for positions in the countries you're interested in; that should give you a general idea of what employers expect in an applicant. There are postings on the Cafe's international job board. You can also do an Internet search on TEFL jobs (name of country).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you want to post some info about where exactly you are aiming for, we can give better advice. I also have a qual recognized at CA CS 3. And I have worked both in Canada and outside with it for 15 years.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just my opinion (as a level two Wink ), but I think the designation is only relevant in Canada. You have the MA from an good on-campus university, and that is acceptable worldwide. Have fun!
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Xie Lin



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Any idea how MA TESL holders fare in the international market?



You'll be fine!

Although aimed primarily at teachers who intend to work in English speaking countries, the MA TESL is nonetheless competitive in most countries and teaching situations with the MA TESOL, MA ELT, MA Applied Linguistics, etc. As a teaching degree, it will often be preferred to an Applied Linguistics MA, with the frequent exception of universities. On the other hand, international schools, and others oriented toward teacher certification will often prefer an M.Ed.

Obviously there will be many exceptions, but this has been my experience to date. Since I've spent very little time in the Middle East (and none of it in the Gulf,) perhaps someone else can chime in there. Frankly, I don't think that a lot of employers below tertiary level even make an ESL/EFL distinction (outside of the English speaking countries, that is.)

Ditto what Santi said about having an English language teaching MA from a good on-site university. Good luck with finishing the degree! And, as Spiral suggested, if there are specific countries of interest to you, you can ask questions on the country boards below.

ETA: Oops! I misquoted Spiral. Anyway, what she said, too!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Has anybody out there received this and gone on the job market? How has it been received by employers? Any difference from those who attended a teacher-training program outside the universities?



I had another thought about this. You might want to ask your university for contact info for graduates of your degree program. You could then ask those who are working internationally how the program has been received by employers abroad.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
santi84 wrote:
Just my opinion (as a level two Wink ), but I think the designation is only relevant in Canada. You have the MA from an good on-campus university, and that is acceptable worldwide. Have fun!


I should be knocked down to a level one for that.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
santi84 wrote:
santi84 wrote:
Just my opinion (as a level two Wink ), but I think the designation is only relevant in Canada. You have the MA from an good on-campus university, and that is acceptable worldwide. Have fun!


I should be knocked down to a level one for that.


Oh, far from it!

Now these are knock down worthy:

"It didn't effect me."

"There has been many posts in past years of people interested in moving to . . ."

"You can cross the boarder at . . ."

"$15 per hour is to low."

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