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CELTA - TKT - SUMMER

 
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kidTEFL



Joined: 21 Aug 2012
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PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 8:15 pm    Post subject: CELTA - TKT - SUMMER Reply with quote

Hi,

I have 2 years experience and the CELTA.

I applied for a summer job and they want me to take TKT which is an inferior certificate with no fail or no classroom observation.

I can't understand why they are insistent on it? They pay for it, not me.

It makes no sense to me as it will be useless? I see it as a waste of time.

Thoughts?

Cheers
KidTEFL
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It should not be compared to the CELTA because it does not have a practical teaching component and focuses more on the specialized language and abstracted concepts of ELT than on the actual application of ELT concepts in lesson preparation and delivery.


In addition to and not a replacement for ?

Professional development is never a waste of time and never hurts your resume (especially if someone else is paying for it).

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kidTEFL



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree PD is always good, but what can you do with the TKT when you already have CELTA?

Also, would you add it to your CV even though it is inferior to CELTA?

I'm just interested why they ask those with CELTAs and even DELTAs to take this test?

The test has no practical assessment nor a failing grade.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kidTEFL wrote:
I'm just interested why they ask those with CELTAs and even DELTAs to take this test?

Why not just ask your prospective employer?
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It should not be compared to the CELTA because it does not have a practical teaching component and focuses more on the specialized language and abstracted concepts of ELT than on the actual application of ELT concepts in lesson preparation and delivery.


missed that part???

Focus on concepts (the why) rather than application and lesson prep/delivery (the how).

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fluffyhamster



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't the employer just select some of the more "essential" terms from the TKT glossary and quickly quiz each applicant during interview? That would surely be a lot quicker and easier for everyone than insisting that each applicant take or have taken the actual TKT examination. (If the employer starts to huff and puff that it won't be easier for them, then it'll be quite obvious that since they can't be bothered to trawl the glossary, they have no idea really of the value of not of the TKT generally).

Personally, I think the TKT could be of some diagnostic use at some point(s) during the CELTA, but agree that there seems little point in insisting on it after. If the CELTA is as good and as thorough as claimed, it should make the TKT redundant. (The TKT seems more for foreign teachers who are already qualified and experienced English teachers, but who want or need to demonstrate some grasp of CLT concepts and terms, yet do not quite have the time to do the CELTA).
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NilSatis82



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opinion is that this school probably barely understand what the TKT is and who it is intended for. Why having a TKT for a summer school applicant would be appropriate or necessary is beyond me. The only sensible advice is to not bother wasting your time with such moronic employers.
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