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Dejvice
Joined: 22 May 2013 Posts: 30
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 5:35 pm Post subject: SORAN 'UNIVERSITY' - CLAD - Iraq Kurdistan |
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Anybody have any exp with SORAN UNIVERSITY - CLAD? I recently had a skype interview with them. I found it rather strange and could not figure out if they were a bonafide university or a private organisation strategically placed beside the university. Secondly when I asked the interviewer how he came to work for SORAN /CLAD..reply was 'the other guy who was supposed to be director didn't fit so I had to step up'
What type of organisation is it..........profit company? Who is running it? What is the management like?
Just curious to learn more. Following the interview not an employer I would consider. |
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Redcar24
Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Posts: 57 Location: Al Hassa Saudi Arabia
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 12:30 am Post subject: Be careful |
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As I understand this Uni sent out an email chain letter with a long list of emails saying sorry you were not accepted for the position. FYI! Be careful |
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Dejvice
Joined: 22 May 2013 Posts: 30
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Not only that during the interview, one guy (the expat) was doing all the talking etc. The other guy was just sitting there, never said a word, never asked a single question, nothing, I assume he was a Kurd. Seemed to me that the "organisation" had found an expat to their bidding for them. One question was about curr. development, but with such questions and issues it always tells me "your use to us will be to develop a curr and teach and once you have developed the curr we will use it to make more money".
Although SORAN maybe was not so bad as it seems, about a month ago I had another skype interview with an Irish guy and a Kurd...based in Erbil. Usually, in skype interviews I turn on the camera and likewise I expect the other party to do so. But they refused to do so, giving some excuse. Anyway as the interview progressed it was obvious they were just desperate to get a "body" to teach in the middle of nowhere on a gas facility. Anyway after about 30 mins.....I asked about their organisation, I got this we are "affiliated" with such and such a school in North America, but when I asked about admin support the Irish guy goes on to say...."we don't need an office, we work etc etc"......at the end the month you will recieve 22 CRISP 100 DOLLAR BILLS on time in your hand". |
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citadel
Joined: 12 May 2012 Posts: 68 Location: Over the river and through the woods.....
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 10:23 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Dejvice"]Not only that during the interview, one guy (the expat) was doing all the talking etc. The other guy was just sitting there, never said a word, never asked a single question, nothing, I assume he was a Kurd. Seemed to me that the "organisation" had found an expat to their bidding for them. One question was about curr. development, but with such questions and issues it always tells me "your use to us will be to develop a curr and teach and once you have developed the curr we will use it to make more money".
I had the same experience. The local guy did not utter a word. I also found it strange that I had to fill in the five blocks for interview. It seemed quite impersonal to me. |
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Dejvice
Joined: 22 May 2013 Posts: 30
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Yes I had the same fill out five blocks.....about an hour after the interview decided that if offered the position was not going to take it. Anyway was not offered the position.
Looking back on it seems to me that the guy doing the interview is only protecting his own interests and will select teachers who he can control / manage so that he can look good in front of the real managers who are the Kurds - but somehow it looks like the real managers don't speak.
All very strange. |
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citadel
Joined: 12 May 2012 Posts: 68 Location: Over the river and through the woods.....
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: SORAN 'UNIVERSITY' - CLAD - Iraq Kurdistan |
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Secondly when I asked the interviewer how he came to work for SORAN /CLAD..reply was 'the other guy who was supposed to be director didn't fit so I had to step up' |
If an interviewer told me that the previous sacked, that is red flag right there. |
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El Hobo
Joined: 28 Sep 2012 Posts: 40 Location: Iraqi-Kurdistan
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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I did get the job and I'm heading out there very soon. I must say, it seems that your negative comments lack substance and are a little farcical. Sending out a letter to people telling them they have not got the job does not seem like an ominous sign to me, nor does stating at which times you will be available to interview.
And yes, a Kurdish Doctor (of Education?) witnessed the interview.
I'll keep you fellows updated as to how the job goes. Good luck with your next interview. |
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lapd08
Joined: 12 May 2008 Posts: 82 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:55 pm Post subject: Soran/CLAD |
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Very glad to see all of these posts-both pro and con. I was one of the ones who got the email saying I hadn't gotten the job after being told I was being considered. At that time, in June I think, there was no info on it in these forums. I found it confusing too, this "private school within a University".
Most off putting though was the original info. saying that teachers would live in a group home, but then they told me that was outdated and we would get our own apartments. Also, VERY worrisome, was that they included all this info about shopping in Erbil, saying taxis were readily available and cheap, but I'm sorry, a trip from Soran (and I know where it is) to Erbil is going to cost you around $100. I worked/lived just outside of Erbil on a compound and that was about a 10-15$ cab ride. And then there was the safety issue of a single woman traveling alone with some of these drivers. I'm not an alarmist and don't draw attention to myself, so this is not exaggerated. The isolation of that was maddening enough, so I knew Soran would drive me nuts in no time.
I'd really love to hear from the poster who accepted the job in the future to see how it goes. |
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Eijse74
Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 46 Location: Oh, man...
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xulagu
Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 16
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:41 am Post subject: Soran University |
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I worked in the first year the English Language programme was set up in the university in Soran. There were some glitches at the start and disputes with the university over the apartments and furniture but generally I remember my year in Soran very fondly. The people were lovely for the most part, the scenery was great and the work hours (then) were minimal-about 12 to 14 hours a week from what I remember as the university and outfit I was working for hadn't really sorted the teachers' schedules out, which was great for us of course. Soran itself was hardly a functioning town in the western sense of the word with few amenities for a westerner and little drink to be found aside from the shops in the Christian quarter but overall I had a very memorable and pleasant time there. Of course there are a few caveats-I'm married, I was spending much of my free time reading, preparing for a PhD and riding a motorbike in the countryside plus beverages once or twice a week. It's not the place for a party goer nor for a person who is there purely to earn money and not appreciate the nature around about. I also worked for a different outfit then so I was not under the direct thumb of the university. As with most jobs, it really depends who your manager is. I don't know the current one nor any rules and regulations for staff but I would definitely recommend Soran itself as a place for anybody who wants a quiet year. |
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danmbob
Joined: 03 Jun 2009 Posts: 71
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Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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anyone working there now? |
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Siobhan 22
Joined: 13 Jul 2016 Posts: 170
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Currently - from a contact in the Soran Engineering Dept. - there is one native teacher there. Whether that is separate from the CLAD section, I'm not sure.
Soran, being a state institution, is probably going to have the same problem with salaries being paid in arrears - 2-3 months.
As for the poster who said a taxi from Soran to Erbil would cost $100 -
I'd suggest shop around!
I taxi (2-hour ride) from Ranya to Korek (near Soran) can be had for $38 (45000 IQD) and from Erbil to Ranya (1hr 50mins) for $33 (40000 IQD).
The hourly-departing bus from Erbil to Ranya is only 6000 IQD ($5) and there must be similar buses from Soran to Erbil. |
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