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tommyjx
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 Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:31 am Post subject: Teaching Licensure? |
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My home state has very strict requirements for attaining licensure. Specifically, it would require me to live and teach there for at minimum 3 years, which I'm NOT doing. Have no desire to be back in the States any time soon.
For jobs (generally speaking) requiring licensure, is it required of one's home state, or could I pursue a teaching license elsewhere and have that work for me?
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tttompatz
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Teaching Licensure? |
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| tommyjx wrote: |
My home state has very strict requirements for attaining licensure. Specifically, it would require me to live and teach there for at minimum 3 years, which I'm NOT doing. Have no desire to be back in the States any time soon.
For jobs (generally speaking) requiring licensure, is it required of one's home state, or could I pursue a teaching license elsewhere and have that work for me?
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Typically, for work abroad, licensure in your home country (as compared to home state/province), when licensure is required.
For better schools, licensure in your home country AND 2 years of experience post licensure.
For most jobs in ESL/EFL licensure is NOT required but a degree and passport from an anglophone country are (visa requirements). A TEFL certification is also a good thing to have.
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:54 am Post subject: |
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In your other thread you stated you have an English degree, two years of teaching ages 8-19 at a hagwon, and currently, no TEFL cert of any sort. I assume you now want to pursue teaching in international schools.
Obviously, you'd need to adhere to the required qualifications for the target job, whatever that may be. Typically, international school positions require that you teach content relevant to your degree major---in your case, English (not EFL) or communication/language arts. As Tttompatz posted, a government-issued teaching license from your home state/country + a minimum of two years of (post-licensure) teaching experience are generally required for the better schools. A TEFL cert would be beneficial but cannot substitute for the required teaching license.
You say you have no interest in returning stateside in the near future, so it's unclear what you mean by "pursuing a teaching license elsewhere." I suggest you do an Internet search on teaching license from us while abroad because this question has been addressed on International Schools Review and on other related sites. You might also contact Teachaway, which recruits primarily for international schools in several world regions; they're quite familiar with requirements. |
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tommyjx
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Nomad Soul -
It's best not to assume anything. My goals are for effectiveness in the medium term; I'm not planning on teaching for the rest of my life.
From that, I'll reiterate that I have no interest in living and working in the US for an extended period, and this includes spending at minimum three years working toward a teaching license in my home state if I'm only going to use it for 3-5 years afterward. Not to mention spending $40,000 for the Masters coursework (on top of my school loans already outstanding).
My question was exactly how it was written:
[For jobs (generally speaking) requiring licensure, is it required of one's home state, or could I pursue a teaching license elsewhere and have that work for me?]
Can I pursue teaching license in another state? In another country? Can I do it remotely?
And before you tell me to search around a bit, I'll tell you I have. But knowing what information is genuine or bullshit is difficult to know. So I've come here, to the place where people have first hand knowledge.
thank you.[/quote] |
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tttompatz
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:37 am Post subject: |
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And to be just as blunt...
Home COUNTRY (state or province is not relevant) licensure when it is required abroad.
Don't like your state, pick another one. Outside of the US nobody cares a hoot or knows the difference between states.
I hear that Florida is pretty easy to get certified in (not sure about doing it from abroad).
Look at alternative licensure programs in the US that include the Praxis exams rather than a return to university. A Masters is NOT required to get certified as a teacher. http://www.ets.org/praxis .
You may be able to get certified (although it won't travel as well) as a teacher (licensure) in other countries like Thailand* (exams done in English) or Korea (exams are done in Korean) but it will still require a minimum of a year in the classroom during the process.
You may be able to do a 1-year post graduate certificate in education (PGCE) or iPGCE and obtain foreign licensure.
If you are looking for an "easy way" to licensure then there isn't one.
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| Thai Council of Teachers wrote: |
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Persons who have had teaching experience with not less 1 year and hold other degrees without a teaching license from abroad; or those who do not hold a graduate diploma in Education with a study course of not less than 1 year, must pass the test, training and assessment as follows:
(1)Thai language and culture
(2)Professional ethics
(3)Professional knowledge
When they have passed the assessment according to (1), (2) and (3), they can file an application.
In case of applicants� teaching experience with less than 1 year, they shall provide a certification letter, issued by an educational institution, and submit it to the TCT for issuing a teaching practice certificate and permitting them to attend the training course, and professional knowledge test. |
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nomad soul
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| tommyjx wrote: |
Nomad Soul -
It's best not to assume anything. My goals are for effectiveness in the medium term; I'm not planning on teaching for the rest of my life.
From that, I'll reiterate that I have no interest in living and working in the US for an extended period, and this includes spending at minimum three years working toward a teaching license in my home state if I'm only going to use it for 3-5 years afterward. Not to mention spending $40,000 for the Masters coursework (on top of my school loans already outstanding). |
Nothing wrong with assumptions since your initial post didn't include the above info about your future goals. It makes a difference. Anyway, if your interests don't include TEFL as a long-term endeavor, then I suggest you simply spend the money and 4 weeks on a CELTA course and focus on teaching older teens and adults. The CELTA will boost your chances to compete for the better teaching jobs.
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| But knowing what information is genuine or bullshit is difficult to know. So I've come here, to the place where people have first hand knowledge. |
I specifically mentioned International Schools Review and Teachaway because they focus solely on international schools---they're primarily for teachers who teach content and not ESL/EFL. Teachaway has a very good reputation, and obviously, you'd get way more responses about licensure on ISR's site than the two you've received here so far.
| Tttompatz wrote: |
| If you are looking for an "easy way" to licensure then there isn't one. |
I concur. Certainly not what the OP wanted to hear but... |
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tommyjx
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| "Easy" is a blunt way to say it. I'm looking for value. |
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cheezsteakwit
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cheezsteakwit
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tttompatz
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| tommyjx wrote: |
| "Easy" is a blunt way to say it. I'm looking for value. |
Value... And how high is up?
Value as in time invested?
Value as in expense.
Value as in job portability?
Value as in some undefined combination of the 3 or some other as yet undefined measure?
You're American. I assume you are also including your G/F (a Brit) in your desire for teacher licensure.
You want some teacher certification that doesn't cost much, doesn't take too much time (value??) and leads to high paying jobs (like in the Middle East)?
Best advice I can offer is to just stay where you are.
Bank your money and then 5 years from now when the 2 of you have about $100k in the bank you can think about losing it all in your own business.
OR...
If you are serious about it then start putting in the real work and take the time to do it right.
Learn how to be a real educator and get properly certified.
Get some business programs under your belt (before you try to run your own start-up business) then have a go...
from another thread....
Yes, I now make a bit more than 2.2 million KRW per month and the new building is worth about $3 million.
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litterascriptor
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