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gorkomi
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 Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:06 pm Post subject: Oil Company Recruitment |
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I applied for one of those "MAJOR OIL COMPANY" positions through a recruiter and after several emails asking what the deal was with my application, they responded that so many UK residents had applied, that the oil company decided not to take any American applicants (they were going to pay for the flight to a London interview initially).
Has anyone else received this information? |
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sicklyman
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I have recently been in touch with one US based individual who is flying to the UK to be interviewed. So, it seems that they are recruiting from the US via the UK. This person was very well qualified though. |
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gorkomi
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I wish they'd just be honest and say "You were not chosen due to others having higher qualifications" or something like that. Thanks. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| gorkomi wrote: |
| I wish they'd just be honest and say "You were not chosen due to others having higher qualifications" or something like that. |
Applicants who meet the minimum or base requirements end up competing against others who hold higher or more specific credentials and/or experience, especially if those qualifications are indicated as preferred in the job ad. In other words, the luckiest applicants match the items on the employer's wish list. It's not unusual to see something like "previous Middle East teaching experience preferred" or "preference will be given to degrees in TESOL." That's the reality. |
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sicklyman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:32 am Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| It's not unusual to see something like "previous Middle East teaching experience preferred" or "preference will be given to degrees in TESOL." That's the reality. |
oh... and they also had previous Saudi specific ME experience too.
Yes, this is the reality. And if it bugs you that they don't tell you this directly and in a timely manner, then you probably wouldn't enjoy working here anyway. There's lots more similar communication where that came from! |
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gorkomi
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| I worked there 3 years. What bugged me is not what the oil company wants. It's that the recruiter told me that the company changed their mind at the last minute and said they were not taking any Americans because they already had enough applicants from the UK. And now you tell me that that's not the case. I'd rather hear "Your credentials suck compared to other people" than "They're not taking any Americans." |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| gorkomi wrote: |
| I worked there 3 years. What bugged me is not what the oil company wants. It's that the recruiter told me that the company changed their mind at the last minute and said they were not taking any Americans because they already had enough applicants from the UK. And now you tell me that that's not the case. I'd rather hear "Your credentials suck compared to other people" than "They're not taking any Americans." |
Not informing rejected applicants is typical with a lot of recruiters---even those in the US. Frankly, getting a BS or vague explanation might be better than no reponse at all.
Either way, the company is no longer considering you. Don't dwell on this experience, move on to pursue other opportunities.
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teachr11
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Isn't visa procurement a much cheaper, less complicated process in the UK than in the US? Maybe that's part of the reason. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| teachr11 wrote: |
| Isn't visa procurement a much cheaper, less complicated process in the UK than in the US? Maybe that's part of the reason. |
I doubt it. Besides, if that were the case, employers wouldn't include the US in their list of targeted nationalities. |
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Paul in Saudi
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| My information is that although the majority of the recent hires were from the UK, at least 70 are from the US. (This shows you how many new teachers we need with the massive new intake coming.) |
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plumpy nut
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| I never cease to be annoyed about what I hear the Saudi Embassy in Washington is doing. It is very probable that you did not get hired because they are not hiring anymore Americans. In the US, also Canada I believe, a teacher cannot get an Iqama with a non-English degree. The embassy sent one teacher's visa application that I know personally back saying no. The company had to bring him in on a temporary employment visa. If a company has to play politics or pay more to do that, or if they only want to bring employers in on an Iqama then they won't hire too many Americans. It's entirely politics, so I wouldn't fret that your qualifications might be inferior. |
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