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[Sashadroogie]

Even the Piggie press cannot deny...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22779443

[scot47]

I prefer my womenfolk to be a bit less butch.

[Sashadroogie]

I dunno, Scottie, she looks just like Jackie Onassis to me.

[johnslat]

Dear Sasha,

Well, the helmet does give sort of a bouffant look:


http://www.glogster.com/tpayne516/1960s-social-norms/g-6m9ik3kqs6g6bspmvieq3a0?old_view=True

Regards,
John

[Sashadroogie]

Dear Johnslat

Tsk tsk, do I sense a little dose of the green-eyed monster? Who was the first female Nasa sent up to space? And when?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsjFi4KkOZc

Regards

Sasha

[johnslat]

Dear Sasha,

Actually, the first female in space was NOT Valentina, though she was Russian:

"On November 3rd, 1957, Sputnik 2 blasted into Earth orbit with a dog named Laika aboard. Laika, which is Russian for "Husky" or "Barker," had the real name of Kudryavka ("Little Curly"). In the U.S. she was eventually dubbed "Muttnik." Laika was a small, stray mongrel picked up from the street. She was hastily trained and put aboard in a metal carrier under the second Sputnik sphere. There was no time to work out any reentry strategy and Laika expired after a few hours. Sputnik 2 finally burned up in the outer atmosphere in April 1958."

And for the Yanks:

"Miss Sam, another rhesus monkey and Sam's mate, was launched on January 21, 1960, for another test of the LES. The Mercury capsule attained a velocity of 1800 mph and an altitude of 9 miles. After landing in the Atlantic Ocean 10.8 miles downrange from the launch site, Miss Sam was also retrieved in overall good condition. She was also returned to her training colony until her death on an unknown date."


As you can see, we took better care of ours


And did you know: "Sally Ride, the first American woman to rocket into outer space, came out as a lesbian in her obituary, a day after her tragic death due to pancreatic cancer. She now makes history not only as the first American woman in space, aboard the space shuttle Challenger, but as the first openly gay or bisexual person."



Regards,
John

[Sashadroogie]

Dear Johnslat

A couple of points to be taken issue with. Can we really describe Sally as the first 'openly gay' astronaut, or anything else, when she concealed the fact until after her death. The furthest from 'open' that can be imagined.

And all this information about experimental animals in orbit - does your value system equate female animals with female humans? Quite disturbing if so. I had not realised the full extent of Piggie degradation of women. Indeed I am quite shocked and am forced, yes forced, to have another drink to becalm myself. At least I can rest easy knowing that Space Programme reflects the honest virtue our great and egalitarian society. This knowledge will undoubtedly settle my nerves.


Regards

Soothed Sasha

[johnslat]

Dear Sasha,

Yup, she was "closeted" - Gee, why do you think she chose that?

Also, you may need to be a little more specific in your questions:

"Who was the first female Nasa sent up to space? And when?"

Regards,
John

[Sashadroogie]

Dear Johnslat

'Who' is for persons. If I was asking about animals, I'd have said 'what'. How much more specific do you need? I weep. I weep at this further evidence that mankind has been reduced to mere beasts of burden by the Piggies.


Regards

Sorrowful Sasha

[johnslat]

Dear Sasha,

Hmm, and yet would it not be a tenet of dialectical materialism that humans have no souls and are nothing more than animals?


Regards,
John

[Sashadroogie]

Dear Johnslat

This is true, but only biologically. We Marxists are quite Darwinian. However, we are also convinced that humanity possesses nobility. Not in an aristo sense, but in the sense of having a basic natural dignity beyond mere animal level. Though to look at the Piggies, and the world of alienation that they have inflicted upon us, it can be hard to think of this as our natural state.

Regards

Romantic Sasha

[johnslat]

Dear Sasha,

Speaking of humans, (other) animals, souls, and nobility (and it's opposite), I like this:

"Do Animals Have Souls?
by Stacy Mantle

I was talking with a coworker the other day and he informed me that animals do not have emotions. This is just after he told me (the day that I put my dog of 17yrs down) that animals do not have souls and therefore will never enjoy the concept of heaven. Now, this coworker has the disadvantage of being, what I refer to, as a "bible-thumper." He is, in fact, a born-again Christian. Please bear in mind that I have nothing against Christians, nor do I have anything against religion in general. I do, however, have a problem with this coworker passing along faulty information.

Animals do have emotions and they also have souls, and I'll tell you how I know that. In over twenty years of working with animals, I have never seen a kitten duct-tape a live human baby to a freeway. I also have never seen a cat find enjoyment from setting a human on fire. I've never gone hiking in the desert to find a child that dogs have left tied to a stake, without food and water, subjecting it to a painful death in the desert heat. I have never seen a chicken force two unwilling humans to fight in a ring with razor blades attached to their feet while the chickens place bets on who will be the first to die. I haven't seen a puppy place eight children in a gunnysack and drown them in a river. Neither have I seen an eagle aim a shotgun at an unarmed human. I have yet to see a bear kill a human simply to place a head on the wall of their cave. And to this day, I have not seen a pigeon drive a car down the road and aim for humans who were walking around the park.

Let me tell you what I have seen. I have seen my own cats sleep next to me so they may keep me a little warmer while I was ill. I've seen my dogs play games with me just to force a smile to my face. I have seen a cat rush into a burning home not once, not twice, but six times to save her kittens, nearly losing her own life in the process. I have seen a ferret pull a frightened kitten out of a deep hole in the ground. I have seen a coyote fetch another dog so that it may get the proper medical care that it needs. I've seen a dog, who loves to jump on people, avoid jumping on me when I injured my back. I've seen elephants cry. I've seen monkeys scream in empathy when one of their own were injured. I've seen puppies whine all night long when they were separated from their mothers. I've seen a dog pull a child away from a fire.

These are only a few of the things that I've seen. To list them all would take a lifetime, and I think you get my point. As for the soul thing? Well, it is my humble opinion that if you have emotions, any kind of emotions, then you have a soul. Ironically, the pope of the Roman Catholic Church recently stated that he feels the same way.

Now, I can't prove that animals have souls. But then, I can't prove that you or I have one either. And for all those people who firmly believe that animals don't have souls - well, I suppose if there really is a heaven, you'll probably have the job of cleaning out all the litter boxes..."

Yes, human animals are capable of "nobility," but so are the other animals. The difference is that human animals are also capable of ignobility whereas the other animals aren't.

Regards,

John the Ignoble (but sometimes Noble) Animal

[Sashadroogie]

Dear Johnslat

That was sweet. Really. But tell me, would you then equate animal rights to human rights?


Regards

Curious Sasha

[johnslat]

Dear Sasha.

Of course not - but then, I'm hardly an unprejudiced voter on that, am I?

Hold on - let me get some other opinions:

OK, it's unanimous there: the 2 dogs and the 1 cat all think animal animal rights (as opposed to human animal rights) are much more in need of improvement.

Regards,
John

[Sashadroogie]

Dear Johnslat

Then tell them they should slaughter the Piggies and collectivise! : )


Regards

Sanguine Sasha