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DirtGuy



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:41 pm    Post subject: thanking class monitors Reply with quote

I have 5 classes at my uni and there is an assigned monitor in each one. 4 of them have done a good job and one was a lying loser. I would like to thank the good monitors in some, small, way other than just an e-mailed letter. Any suggestions?

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choudoufu



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

invite 'em to hotpot.

photoshop a certificate. (use the cool name seal you bought and then
stuck in a drawer somewhere.....)

get them matching t-shirts with something cool printed across the front.

buy a small gift from the stationary store.

but do you really want to exclude the lying loser? makes you look bad,
and reinforces everything loserboy said/says about you.
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LarssonCrew



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems a bit obvious, but what about dinner?
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DirtGuy



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are good ideas and there is a pizza buffet in town I wouldn't mind returning to.

I understand what you are saying about the loser, but why in the world would I want to include this guy? Aside from being an awful monitor (almost never showed up to class, major disturbance when he did, never followed through on any of my requests, never once took a quiz), the guy "borrowed" my i-Pod and never gave it back. Seems to me that if anything is being reinforced, it is that these kids can do anything they want except study and get away with it.

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LarssonCrew



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like theft? Why didn't you report him. If the 'higher ups' hear about it and lean on him, he'll give it back.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DirtGuy wrote:
These are good ideas and there is a pizza buffet in town I wouldn't mind returning to.

I understand what you are saying about the loser, but why in the world would I want to include this guy? Aside from being an awful monitor (almost never showed up to class, major disturbance when he did, never followed through on any of my requests, never once took a quiz), the guy "borrowed" my i-Pod and never gave it back. Seems to me that if anything is being reinforced, it is that these kids can do anything they want except study and get away with it.

DirtGuy


The 'good' monitors know Number 5 is a train wreck.
If you include him, what message does it send to the ones who made an effort?
The buck has to stop somewhere with Number 5 and you may be doing him a favour.
Oh yeah cover your back by informally telling the FAO.
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it'snotmyfault



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The students (not just monitors) who've made my life easy all year will get "bonus" marks in their final grade. Is that ethical? Probably not.

Personally I'd feel a bit uncomfortable inviting them all to dinner. And my ego might take a hammering if only one or two of them turn up Smile
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel a bit uneasy about extra points, as the other students in that class had no way of competing for extra points in that area.
I have in the past had awards for various accomplishments over the semester:
Best student
Best team
Most enthusiastic
Best attitude
But of course you have to set out with that system from day one and involve the students.
Don't sell yourself short. Invite the 4 and absorb the lesson if no one shows.
Good thread. Let us know how it goes.
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LarssonCrew



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If fewer people turn up, it turns out to be cheaper for you!
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mwaltman



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are obligated into the job and word gets back to the powers that be if they don't do it properly. Buying them anything is inappropriate. Simply say thank you if you want, but celebrating them in anyway is nothing but some aggrandizing behavior they don't need. They did what they should do.
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kungfuman



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

choudoufu wrote:
invite 'em to hotpot.

photoshop a certificate. (use the cool name seal you bought and then
stuck in a drawer somewhere.....)

get them matching t-shirts with something cool printed across the front.

buy a small gift from the stationary store.

but do you really want to exclude the lying loser? makes you look bad,
and reinforces everything loserboy said/says about you.


I second the above. FOOD is always welcome followed by a small gift. Gift need not be expensive - just cute - AND useless.

I always thank the monitors for their help. Quite often the monitors could do things I couldn't like change the date or time of a class ( they ALWAYS said no to me, whereas the monitor would disappear for 3 minutes and return saying it was done.)
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kungfuman



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mwaltman wrote:
They are obligated into the job and word gets back to the powers that be if they don't do it properly. Buying them anything is inappropriate. Simply say thank you if you want, but celebrating them in anyway is nothing but some aggrandizing behavior they don't need. They did what they should do.


Disagree 100% with the above. They are young people - sometimes thrust into the position, sometimes voted into it. Treat them with respect when they do a good job and reward as you see fit.

It's important to maintain a high level relationship with the class monitor.
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hochhasd



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kungfuman wrote:
mwaltman wrote:
They are obligated into the job and word gets back to the powers that be if they don't do it properly. Buying them anything is inappropriate. Simply say thank you if you want, but celebrating them in anyway is nothing but some aggrandizing behavior they don't need. They did what they should do.


Disagree 100% with the above. They are young people - sometimes thrust into the position, sometimes voted into it. Treat them with respect when they do a good job and reward as you see fit.

It's important to maintain a high level relationship with the class monitor.


I never really knew who my monitors were until I asked and even then they did not want to admit it. I was told by my head Western teacher that I should not give them the power . They are students and you are the teacher. It was not meant to sound negative towards the students,but to make sure the other students understood there was no favoritism.
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DirtGuy



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. I'm even more confused than I was before. Still have a couple of days to think about it.

As for the flake, I'm going to have a sit down with his boss and let him know 4 of the monitors have done their job well and this one hasn't. I'll let everyone know the outcome.

DG
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GuestBob



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A simple recommendation to the head of their department is probably enough.

I have an ambivalent relationship with the idea of class monitors.

I don't need them for anything as I can use the computer systems to find any information I need myself and I also, you know, talk to other teachers if I want information. I have had monitors who tried to play the smartarse with me (that didn't last long) and ones who were helpful by their anonymity. I certainly don't elevate them to any kind of higher status than any other students though - unless they earn it by being an example to others.

However, the monitor and the class committee actually have a say in more important things than just helping the teacher - they may also have a hand in the disbursement of scholarships and the completion of character reports for other students, which are included in their files. This will vary from institution to institution of course but the class committee is an important element in the administration of students, although one which most foreign teachers don't fully understand.

I am aware of many (though not all) of the dynamics at work in the ban system but I don't feel the need to play into it. Case in point - I use set mixed ability groups throughout the year to (amongst other things) reform the social dynamic at work in my classroom and reform relationships with "language ability" thrown into the mix.
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