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Trevor Wadlow · Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Posts: 103 Location: china

Isn't it about time you all just gave up on the UK and headed for Asia?Better pay, better conditions. What on earth is the point of staying there and complaining?

Perilla · Joined: 09 Jul 2010 Posts: 792 Location: Hong Kong

Certainly in the TEFL field there aren't many good jobs available in the UK, and public sector teaching ain't what it used to be. Still, some people have no choice but to put up with the UK, whatever its faults.

billbob · Joined: 19 Nov 2009 Posts: 55

ISSAKAB · Joined: 12 Feb 2013 Posts: 40

Yes, I'm a UK citizen whose given up on the country. Much better quality of life just about anywhere else in the EU. Not to mention Asia, even parts of Africa.

Sublime · Joined: 23 Apr 2011 Posts: 90

I only come back briefly because it's generally necessary to earn money during the summer.

But by September time I'm already desperate to escape again.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

End of Empire. What do you expect. The place is a hellhole.

Solar Strength · Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 557 Location: Bangkok, Thailand

Shroob · Joined: 02 Aug 2010 Posts: 1339

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

There are few jobs at unis. Many are part-time or sessional. Welcome to the world of the "zero-hour contract".

PC Parrot · Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:08 am Post subject:

If you are a TEFLer and you want to live in Western Europe, the answer is simple, get an MA, go to the Gulf, and keep your head down.

When you stagger out of the desert 10 to 15 years later and dust yourself down, you will be able to re-enter European society without the gloomy prospect of spending your last 10 to 20 years on the planet in almost certain poverty.

If that doesn't appeal to you, then get a PhD, find something interesting to say, launch yourself into rounds and rounds of international conference presentations and publish a few books. If you can make a respectable reputation for yourself, then there is money in consultancy.

And if that sounds improbable, there is an easier way to live in the Western Europe. Don't become a TEFLer.

Sashadroogie · Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:48 am Post subject:

Move to Moscow. Make a fair dollop of cash, but without the restrictions imposed by the Gulf. Live life to the full! To extremes!

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

The Parrot and the Stalinist are both wrong, but I don't know the answer either !

PC Parrot · Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:17 am Post subject:

Mine was based on the assumption that you would actually save and invest wisely the hard cash you earned in the Gulf ..

If you're going to blow it all, you might as well work in Europe and enjoy yourself ... until that is, the fateful moment arrives when you wake up one morning staring down the barrel of a life ruining financial predicament ..

Sashadroogie · Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:02 am Post subject:

Can't we do both? Make a lot of cash. Invest some wisely AND spend some money on wine, women and song. Then just waste the rest? This is the Moscow TEFL teacher's lifestyle. No sign of impending financial doom thus far. That is historically inevitable for the Piggies in the West - not in the Motherland.

So forget the bankrupt UK. The Piggie empire is long past. Come East! Join the future!

Sashadroogie · Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:21 am Post subject:

No, there aren't any that pay that well. You could only save about 1/3 to 1/2 that. But that is still the highest I know in Europe. And then there is the fact that you have not sold your soul to live in a compound... Personally, I'd prefer to sacrifice some of the savings than part of my lifespan.