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Finding work without a degree, but with a CELTA
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OliverN



Joined: 10 Apr 2012
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 2:59 pm    Post subject: Finding work without a degree, but with a CELTA Reply with quote
Hello!

I have a CELTA, but no degree, it's vital that I gain some experience as sons as possible, and while doing so I intend to get a degree.

Does anyone have any advice as to which regions I may have the most luck in finding employment?
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fluffyhamster



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
There could still be the ways and means to work full-time in China, but you might prefer the relative straightforwardness of something like the working holiday visas in Japan (assuming you aren't too old), though bear in mind that the WHV isn't indefinite and has limits on its renewal (depending on nationality).
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Working holiday visa is not for Americans, by the way. What is your nationality, Oliver?
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OliverN



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm british and I'm 33!
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bulgogiboy



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You could possibly get a job, and a residence permit, in Turkey. You wouldn't be able to get a work permit though, so it would be working off the record, which is fairly common in Turkey.
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337heaven



Joined: 29 Apr 2012
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm in the same situation Oliver, keep us posted mate
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
For citizens of the UK, Ireland, and other EU member states who are automatically eligible to work in the EU, degrees aren't legally required in continental European countries.

The problem is that you will be competing against a vast majority of candidates who do have a degree + CELTA or equivalent; this is what most new teachers bring to the table.

It's further problematic that many/most language students in the region (depending exactly where you go) are university educated adults, so you automatically lose a bit of credibility from that angle as well.

It's possible to get around the lack of degree by demonstrating a high level of professionalism and reliability, and if you've got business experience, it's worth playing up.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
spiral78 wrote:
The problem is that you will be competing against a vast majority of candidates who do have a degree + CELTA or equivalent; this is what most new teachers bring to the table.

It's further problematic that many/most language students in the region (depending exactly where you go) are university educated adults, so you automatically lose a bit of credibility from that angle as well.
These are 2 very key points.

So, why then is it so "vital" that you gain experience as soon as possible? Just focus on getting the degree.
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OliverN



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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's vital because, I want to teach and progress. Confused

There are jobs out there which will take me without a degree, I'm not fussy about which country I work in. It's mainly a visa issue, not an academic one.

I will get that "vital" degree, but at the right time and in a worthy subject.
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