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Constantine_Dragas



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:52 pm    Post subject: Interested in teaching and in need of advice. Reply with quote

Hi everyone!

I'm a 28 year old male. I recieved a History M.A. in December of 2011 and I'm certified to teach Social Studies at the high school level here in Texas. For the past year and a half, I've been doing search engine optimization for a small tech company. I would really like to leave the US, travel, and work a job that has more human interaction. I've paid off my student loans and saved up a fair amount of money, so I feel like I'm in a good position to teach overseas (I am especially interested in Japan and Korea).

I'm a little overwhelmed by all the information and guides out there. I stayed up late reading articles and watching some advice videos. I do have a few questions. Am I limiting myself if I do not have a TEFL qualification? What paths are open to me with my current qualifications? One of my friends suggested I might be able to teach classes in my subject of expertise at certain international schools. I would really appreciate any help.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi. Yes, you are probably limiting yourself by not having a cert. Consider getting a proper cert before you go into a classroom. However, where you go and for how long you intend to stay, will affect what preparation you need to do first.

But whatever you do, do not waste your time getting an online EFL cert. Total waste of your time and money.

Best of luck!
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rtm



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Interested in teaching and in need of advice. Reply with quote

Constantine_Dragas wrote:
Hi everyone!

I'm a 28 year old male. I recieved a History M.A. in December of 2011 and I'm certified to teach Social Studies at the high school level here in Texas. For the past year and a half, I've been doing search engine optimization for a small tech company. I would really like to leave the US, travel, and work a job that has more human interaction. I've paid off my student loans and saved up a fair amount of money, so I feel like I'm in a good position to teach overseas (I am especially interested in Japan and Korea).

I'm a little overwhelmed by all the information and guides out there. I stayed up late reading articles and watching some advice videos. I do have a few questions. Am I limiting myself if I do not have a TEFL qualification? What paths are open to me with my current qualifications? One of my friends suggested I might be able to teach classes in my subject of expertise at certain international schools. I would really appreciate any help.


In Japan, your qualifications will get you the same as someone with just an unrelated BA. The most likely jobs are at a commercial language 'school' (eikaiwa), or as an Assistant Language Teacher (ALT) at public schools. Read up in the Japan forum, as these have been discussed extensively. Your MA might help you a little, but probably not much if you don't have any ESL/EFL teaching experience to go with it. For Japan, a cert isn't required, but it can't hurt.

Information about Korea isn't allowed here -- you'll need to go to the Korea board for that (separate forum, so separate registration is required).

International schools generally require not only home-country teacher certification, but also home-country teaching experience (most often 2 years, some places require more). Do you have experience teaching history/social studies in the US?

You might be able to find a job at an "international" school (emphasis on the quotes). There are some schools that call themselves "international" schools, even though they aren't necessarily accredited as such, and mostly teach local kids in English. I don't have any experience with these schools, though, so I'm not sure about how to go about looking for such a position. I have never heard of these types of schools in Japan.
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Constantine_Dragas



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback guys.

I've heard that online EFL certifications were mostly scams. What should I consider when looking into a certification program? I live in the Dallas area and I do know that Oxford Seminars offers TEFL Certification Courses as does SMU (a very expensive certification process). Are there other local options to consider?

As for your question rtm, unfortunately, I don't have much experience beyond subbing and teacher observation. I have not worked as a full time teacher.
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Denim-Maniac



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oxford Seminars are one of the spurious course providers and should be avoided!

If you want a recognised certificate, you need to look at CELTA, Trinity or SIT as the main course providers. These are only entry level qualifications too, but the standard is 120 hours onsite training with observed teaching practice of real EFL students.
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Constantine_Dragas



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? Well thanks for the heads up. Getting a reputable Certification is going to be harder than I thought. I don't see many options available to me in the Dallas area unless I've overlooked something. The nearest CELTA program seems to be in Austin.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consider getting certified in the country where you want to start teaching. There are a number of advantages: training centres offer a useful bridge into country/culture as they usually deal with logistics for your first month there (airport pickup, housing during the course, local orientation). Your peer trainees can form your first social network in the country, practice teaching students will be really representative of those you'll start working with when you graduate, and a good training centre can be a vital resource for putting you in contact with reputable local employers.

Ditto to the 'no' on Oxford. The key to a real course is the supervised teaching practice with real students.
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Chancellor



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Interested in teaching and in need of advice. Reply with quote

Constantine_Dragas wrote:
Hi everyone!

I'm a 28 year old male. I recieved a History M.A. in December of 2011 and I'm certified to teach Social Studies at the high school level here in Texas. For the past year and a half, I've been doing search engine optimization for a small tech company. I would really like to leave the US, travel, and work a job that has more human interaction. I've paid off my student loans and saved up a fair amount of money, so I feel like I'm in a good position to teach overseas (I am especially interested in Japan and Korea).

I'm a little overwhelmed by all the information and guides out there. I stayed up late reading articles and watching some advice videos. I do have a few questions. Am I limiting myself if I do not have a TEFL qualification? What paths are open to me with my current qualifications? One of my friends suggested I might be able to teach classes in my subject of expertise at certain international schools. I would really appreciate any help.
I take it, then, that while you have certification to teach high school social studies you haven't actually taught it? Have you considered trying to get a teaching job in Texas? (I realize the job market is pretty tight; I have EC-6 Generalist, 4-8 Generalist and ESL certifications in Texas).

Because you have certification to teach high school social studies, you could try applying at some international schools (though the better ones, like the IBO schools as well as the US Department of Defense schools will want you to have at least two years of teaching experience under your belt). Or are you specifically interested in teaching English as a language (as opposed to what schools in America call "English")?

If you're specifically interested in teaching English as a language, and you want to teach children, consider adding ESL to your Texas teaching certification. If you want to teach adults, then, as others have suggested, a four-week course like CELTA, Trinity, SIT or one of the other TESOL, TESL, TEFL courses are entry-level certifications and a proper certification will be at least 120-hours in length and include an on-site teaching practicum with real ESL/EFL students.

Alternatively, you could see what TESOL courses are offered at some of the universities in Texas (http://www.eslgold.com/tesol_texas.html) or, if you're really ambitious, go for a master's in applied linguistics or in TESOL. There's also this graduate certificate program at Texas A&M: http://web.tamuc.edu/academics/colleges/humanitiesSocialSciencesArts/departments/literaturelanguages/graduate/certificates/TESOL.aspx that might be a good alternative to the full master's degree.
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