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mcloo7
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 Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:02 am Post subject: Health Check |
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I am pretty close to signing a contract and got the health check form. For those of you from the US, will your doctor fill this out for you? Do you make an appointment, tell them what it's for, and they'll fill it out no problem? I think some common health insurance policies won't cover a physical for a job. Does anyone have any experience with this?
I think my doctor is a firm believer that people should not be x-rayed unless they absolutely need it, because he does not think they should be exposed needlessly to radiation. I dont know if he would agree to do it. |
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doogsville
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| Tell him he can skip the x-ray, and anything else he thinks would be unnecessary, by writing something like 'not needed' on the form and stamping it. Always remember you'll have to go through the whole process again on arrival. |
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Mr. Leafy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| doogsville wrote: |
| Tell him he can skip the x-ray, and anything else he thinks would be unnecessary, by writing something like 'not needed' on the form and stamping it. |
Don't have them write 'not needed' because as far as the Chinese govt. is concerned, it is needed. I've heard a lot of people ask their doctor to write 'ok' but mine was unwilling to do that without seeing the film so I had to get one done. (And she did not profit from me doing the x-ray). |
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mcloo7
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| Does anyone know if getting the health check at home is absolutely required? The recruiter tells me that it is, but a person who the school hired to apply for the Z visa for me tells me that it is not. The recruiter also asked me for a criminal record check, which I did have, but it is over six months old; but the visa guy said that that also is not needed. |
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Toast
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| mcloo7 wrote: |
| Does anyone know if getting the health check at home is absolutely required? |
It will be the embassy that will likely need this. Without knowing where you'll be applying for your visa no one can answer for certain as the embassies usually have different rules and requirements. The school and recruiter can tell you you don't need it, but they only know the requirements on their end, not for example the additional documents needed by the Consulate General of the People's Republic of China in Islamabad compared to that in Saskatchapoon. |
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mcloo7
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| Toast wrote: |
| mcloo7 wrote: |
| Does anyone know if getting the health check at home is absolutely required? |
It will be the embassy that will likely need this. Without knowing where you'll be applying for your visa no one can answer for certain as the embassies usually have different rules and requirements. The school and recruiter can tell you you don't need it, but they only know the requirements on their end, not for example the additional documents needed by the Consulate General of the People's Republic of China in Islamabad compared to that in Saskatchapoon. |
Do you know how I can find out about the embassy's policy. I live near Philadelphia so I think the nearest embassy is New York. Can I contact them and ask? |
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mcloo7
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| I just checked the website of the NY embassy. It lists the requirements for a Z visa application, and it doesnt say anything about a health check. The only time health comes up at all is on one of the application forms and you are just supposed to check if you have certain things, but it doesnt say anything about needing a doctor to sign it. |
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Denim-Maniac
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:50 am Post subject: |
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My experience is that the health check is NOT required at the embassy who issues visas, but it IS required at the invite issuing authority within China. That has been my experience on two occasions.
It is possible that the Z visa invitation issuing office will not process an invitation without a health check document. Again, its not a hard and fast rule ... if your employer wants you enough and have enough guanxi they may be able to bypass this requirement ... again, this has been my experience. |
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GeminiTiger
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| Denim-Maniac wrote: |
My experience is that the health check is NOT required at the embassy who issues visas, but it IS required at the invite issuing authority within China. That has been my experience on two occasions.
It is possible that the Z visa invitation issuing office will not process an invitation without a health check document. Again, its not a hard and fast rule ... if your employer wants you enough and have enough guanxi they may be able to bypass this requirement ... again, this has been my experience. |
I think the above is exactly correct. It's ironic that it's probably that same office that requires you to have a second health check by Chinese doctors once your on the ground before you can get your visa finalized. |
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Toast
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Denim-Maniac wrote: |
| My experience is that the health check is NOT required at the embassy who issues visas, but it IS required at the invite issuing authority within China. That has been my experience on two occasions. |
My experiences and those of many others have been exact opposite however.
My first "Z" visa came from Melbourne where the original health check, and copies were required. When I collected the visa a couple of days later the originals were returned.
Bangkok was the same, although they just checked the health check copies matched the real paperwork, and returned the original on the spot.
HGK definitely requires them also.
3 for 3 makes me believe unless otherwise specifically stated by that particular embassy or consulate they *will* require you to produce a copy of your health check at the time of applying for a visa..
This process is completely independent of the PSB actually in China, just seems to be for the embassy's own ass covering policy.
Someone had mentioned elsewhere (try up in the sticky about the overseas medical checks) about New York....from memory that particular consulate *doesn't* require the health checks in order to issue the Z visa....but do a search to confirm. |
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johntpartee
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| It is required at the Chinese Embassy in Mexico City. I had a "waiver" from the school to skip the health check with the understanding that if I didn't pass the exam when I arrived in China I had to pay for my travel out. It didn't matter to the Embassy people, I still had to get it. |
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mw182006
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| Do the embassies typically require all the supporting documentation (ekg, blood work, xray, etc) or just the completed health form? The embassy here in Tx does require the exam according to their site, but instructions are somewhat vague. |
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johntpartee
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| There's a "Physical Examination Form For Foreigner"; usually the FAOs at schools will have them. The form states that you need all that stuff, but the Embassy in Mexico City only looked at the completed form. Probably depends on who's on duty when you get there. |
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MisterButtkins
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Just a tip for anyone who has to do this in the US.
Go to one of the bad clinics where druggies go to get the doctor to write them BS prescriptions. Just tell the doctor, "I just need this form signed, you don't actually have to do any of this. It's just bureaucratic nonsense." Let them take your blood pressure, pay your 70$ and you're good to go. Cheap and no hassle.
DO NOT go to a clinic that specializes in scamming old people with Medicare. They will make you take every test on there and will charge you more than necessary. |
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doogsville
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| Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| MisterButtkins wrote: |
Just a tip for anyone who has to do this in the US.
Go to one of the bad clinics where druggies go to get the doctor to write them BS prescriptions. Just tell the doctor, "I just need this form signed, you don't actually have to do any of this. It's just bureaucratic nonsense." Let them take your blood pressure, pay your 70$ and you're good to go. Cheap and no hassle.
DO NOT go to a clinic that specializes in scamming old people with Medicare. They will make you take every test on there and will charge you more than necessary. |
Wow! Sounds a lot like China! |
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