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[treiche1]

I just wanted to share my experiences thus far with INM, as I have been offered a job by a university (who has already established a relationship with INM) but am having difficulties getting my paperwork accepted

1) Employer went to immigration with my apostilled documents (diploma, birth certificate, teaching credential). Paper work was rejected because all the documents were certified copies, not originals, but in California, this is the way I was told it needs to be done.

2) Employer went back to immigration with original apostilled documents. Paperwork got rejected because I needed to also send my resume and cover letter, translated into Spanish

3) Employer goes back with all documents needed. Paperwork gets rejected because my credential did not say I have the authorization to teach English, only history.

4) Employer goes back with all paperwork, including my English credential. Paperwork gets rejected because inm said someone from human resources needs to come see them, not my boss, because he does not have the necessary credentials to submit paperwork

So, someone from hr will be going back tomorrow to try and submit all my paperwork. My employer has said that he think immigration is trying to tire them out. I am just wondering why this would be? Also, has anyone else had similar experiences with the new laws, and if so, is there some light at the end of the tunnel? I am really starting to think I'm not going to be able to go because they keep rejecting my paperwork, and I am running out of time (my job starts on Aug 5th).

[Basil Seal]

Yeah, apostilled documents being rejected for not being originals is nonsense.

Did you have to have all of the documents (in addition to your CV and cover letter) translated? If so, were you able to do it yourself? Or did it have to be done by an "official" translator in Mexico?

I'm a bit worried because our university is going to have to hire a few teachers this summer and I'm anticipating having similar problems with this new INM process.

Anyway, keep us posted and hope it all works out for you.

What is an Apostille?
An Apostille is a special seal applied by an authority to certify that a document is a true copy of an original.
An Apostille can be used whenever a copy of an official document from another country is needed. The Registrar's office can process your transcript or diploma and obtain the Apostille seal from the state of New Hampshire.
For more information about Apostilles in general see: http://www.apostilleinfo.com/sample.htm
Documents going to countries NOT listed will usually require a regular certificate, also available through our office.

From the Dartmouth College website: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~reg/transcript/apostille.html

[treiche1]

Yes, I had all my apostilled documents translated by a certified translator, here in Los Angeles. The resume and cover letter I just did myself.

But, inm just rejected all my paperwork again because they want a certified translation of the apostilled document, even though California already uses a trilingual apostille, so everything is already translated into Spanish on the document...I will keep you updated as to how things go

[donato]

Why not try a different immigration office in a different city? I have no idea if that is even possible, I'm just throwing out the idea.

[Isla Guapa]

[quote="donato"]Why not try a different immigration office in a different city? I have no idea if that is even possible, I'm just throwing out the idea.[/quote

I'm pretty sure you can't "shop around" for a more reasonable INM office to deal with - you have to use the one nearest you.

[treiche1]

Yeah, plus it's my employer who has to apply on my behalf (as I am still here in Los Angeles) before I can go to the consulate here, so I don't think I could ask them to drive to another city

[MotherF]

Can I ask which INM office they are dealing with?

[treiche1]

Oaxaca de Ju�rez, my boss said that someone from hr went to take my paperwork today and they took it and said they'd let us know if they will accept it on Monday, we'll see if this happens...

[Guy Courchesne]

[MotherF]

It seems that they didn't anticpate how much more work they were creating for themselves with some of the changes, people here have been told to call back in 10 days but when they do they are told to call back in ten days, and then another ten...


I guess the good news is that next year they will have significantly less visits as right now everyone how has been here long enough or is married are changing to permenant status and will no longer go back each year.

[donato]

You can also renew between 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 years now so you don't have to go in every year.

[treiche1]

Just to update everyone, after getting rejected one more time (they vaguely told hr I just wasn't qualified...), my boss went back with the president of the school and Oaxaca accepted my papers and issued a NUT number, yay!....But they said that have to send everything to INM in Mexico City now, and that office has to approve all the paperwork and accept it...

So, I am wondering, can I take this NUT number to the consulate here to get approved, or do I have to wait to get approved in Mexico City and then go...I sent the consulate the paper with the NUT #, asking if it was okay, but no one ever got back to me. I'm just hoping this means everything will now be okay!

[Guy Courchesne]

No, you need to wait for the offer to be approved. The school can then scan the approval sheet and email it to you...that's what you take to the consulate. The NUT is just the file number that references your particular process.

At least, this is how the Mexican embassy in Canada explained it to me.

[BadBeagleBad]

All this really begs the question of what the smaller institutes, who typically only hire p�rt time teachers, are going to do. The whole thing doesn�t seem very well thought out, or maybe they just didn�t realize how many part time jobs there are. I do think some institutes will go back to paying under the table, but with SAT being so much more efficient than they were in the past, not sure how the institutes are going to account for their income without employees.

[treiche1]

Just to help anyone going through these difficulties, I finally got the approval I needed! Here are the steps I took (which could vary greatly depending on the office, I'm not sure....)

1) Employer had to fill out an application on my behalf and take the following documents to immigration: apostilled teaching credential, diploma, and birth certificate (according to inm, these docs needed to be original, not certified copies); resume, and cover letter. All documents had to be certified translations

2) After 2 months of going back and forth, inm finally accepted all documents

3) Inm issued an authorization letter, in which I had 15 days to schedule an appointment at the consulate here in the US and present the letter

4) Went to the consulate with the letter, passport, 2 different applications (which can be e-mailed to you by the consulate), passport photos, photo copy of passport pages.

Now, this was tricky because my authorization letter said to present myself at the consulate in Los Angeles, but I was no longer in LA so the consulate in the city I was in refused to process my papers, and said I had to go to LA. I went to LA, and they told me this was not true, I should be able to go to any consulate....not sure about this, all I know is I was refused and had to go to LA to get everything processed

Finally, all paperwork got processed! I am definitely not an expert on this process, but my advice is to start very early, at least 3-4 months before you leave. Hope this info helps!