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ben.detw
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 Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:41 am Post subject: Guangdong University Advice |
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Hello,
I am currently teaching in Dalian and would like to make the jump to teaching in the south of China for the fall semester. From what I have researched, Guangdong province seems to be in line with what I am looking for. So I have a few questions regarding the university jobs available in Guangdong.
-What are the universities that are well regarded within the teaching community?
-How easy is it to obtain side work?
-What kind of salary is the norm for this area?
My qualifications are such:
-Bachelors (B.B.A)
-120 Hour In-class TEFL
-Native Speaker (U.S.A)
-24 year old white male
-Working on licensure in America
-18 credits toward M.ED
Your advice is much appreciated. Thanks.
Ben |
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buffalobill12323
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:54 am Post subject: Re: Guangdong University Advice |
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| ben.detw wrote: |
Hello,
I am currently teaching in Dalian and would like to make the jump to teaching in the south of China for the fall semester. From what I have researched, Guangdong province seems to be in line with what I am looking for. So I have a few questions regarding the university jobs available in Guangdong.
-What are the universities that are well regarded within the teaching community?
-How easy is it to obtain side work?
-What kind of salary is the norm for this area?
My qualifications are such:
-Bachelors (B.B.A)
-120 Hour In-class TEFL
-Native Speaker (U.S.A)
-24 year old white male
-Working on licensure in America
-18 credits toward M.ED
Your advice is much appreciated. Thanks.
Ben |
GuangZhou is a good city to live in, with a university job, you would probably end up working in Da Xue cheng, an island in the pearl river, home to ten universities. This is the place you want to be in terms of extra work, which is absurdly easy to come by. It is common for people to work primarily for one of the better universities - Sun Yatsen, GDUFS, and to also teach at one of the lesser lights, maybe 8K (6-10 dependent on a wide array of factors) in the first job with 250/class in the second. 20/25 K months are easily achievable, 30/35 is not beyond the realm of the possible - for the latter one will also need to tap the highly active tutoring market, if you can do IELTS / TOEFL you will find a long line of willing tutees at 300/hr. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| I note your upcoming teaching licence. This in time could propel you into the even more lucrative international school arena. |
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Guerciotti
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Ben, how/where are you working on licensure; if I may ask? I'm trying to find an online program and would surely appreciate any information.
Guangzhou sound like the place to be to make money. Impressive (IMHO) |
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ben.detw
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Thanks for the sound advice on the island. I will apply in March. Does anyone have a contact I could use to get in an inside track on one of these positions? I would be eternally grateful.
International school teaching is definitely the end game!
The licensure is done through Teacherready.
It is a 9-month program and is all online with a field teaching aspect and you have to pass 3 tests that are administered in America. Total cost is about $5,000.
Check it out: www.teacherready.org |
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Guerciotti
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Location: In a sleazy bar killing all the bad guys.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| ben.detw wrote: |
Thanks for the sound advice on the island. I will apply in March. Does anyone have a contact I could use to get in an inside track on one of these positions? I would be eternally grateful.
International school teaching is definitely the end game!
The licensure is done through Teacherready.
It is a 9-month program and is all online with a field teaching aspect and you have to pass 3 tests that are administered in America. Total cost is about $5,000.
Check it out: www.teacherready.org |
Thanks Ben I will check it out. Sorry I derailed your thread. |
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GreatApe
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Good Luck, ben.detw!
I've been working for International schools for more than 2 years now; teaching mostly IELTS, TOEFL, and SAT prep. classes. Also presently teaching V.I.P. students on the side for a local Training Center. Making good money both as a teacher and as the director of the I.P. for the I.S. where I work.
My qualifications are similar to your own, although I'm much older than you, have an M.A. in English and English Lit., and am already licensed in the states (since 2004). Currently in the middle of teaching my 16th year (5th in China).
Feel free to PM me. I'd be happy to share advice and information with you, if you like.
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wgmarker
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Good luck. I am Director of Studies/Head of Foreign Teachers at an International School southeast of GuangZhou. Once you get your license you'll have a whole new world as far as jobs. I too can answer any questions you may have.
Will |
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TrampledKlown
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Guangdong University Advice |
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A lot of university contracts have a clause saying you can't work outside without permission.
Is it worth it to ask for permission? Or is it best to just be discreet? |
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Shroob
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: Guangdong University Advice |
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| TrampledKlown wrote: |
A lot of university contracts have a clause saying you can't work outside without permission.
Is it worth it to ask for permission? Or is it best to just be discreet? |
I think every contract has that (at least initially), it's part of the SAFEA requirements I believe. |
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MisterButtkins
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Don't run classes in your apartment, and don't run around your university yelling about how many other classes you teach, and you'll be fine. I have yet to hear anyone with half a brain get in trouble for breaking that stipulation.
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Definitely don't ask for permission. Chinese have this thing, it's hard to explain, but basically the appearance of following regulations is often more important than actually following the regulations. In other words, they're probably going to tell you it's not OK even if they don't care, because this preserves the appearance of following the regulations. |
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Non Sequitur
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| I got some of my best private gigs from FAO staff. |
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thechangling
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
| I got some of my best private gigs from FAO staff. |
I'll second that! |
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muffintop
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| MisterButtkins wrote: |
Don't run classes in your apartment, and don't run around your university yelling about how many other classes you teach, and you'll be fine. I have yet to hear anyone with half a brain get in trouble for breaking that stipulation.
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| Is it worth it to ask for permission? |
Definitely don't ask for permission. Chinese have this thing, it's hard to explain, but basically the appearance of following regulations is often more important than actually following the regulations. In other words, they're probably going to tell you it's not OK even if they don't care, because this preserves the appearance of following the regulations. |
This. |
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