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Big difference between the eikaiwa agencies/schools?
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rebelsatellite



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:52 pm    Post subject: Big difference between the eikaiwa agencies/schools? Reply with quote

Hi all,

First post here... my situation is that I have two interviews - one with ECC and the other UIC (i.e. Shane Schools) - both in the Tokyo district. I've read up about the eikaiwa situation and it seems to very from the worst possible idea ever to a really rewarding way into a working life in Japan (if anyone wants to add to this I'd be interested to hear your advice!).

I suppose my main question would be that, between Shane and ECC, are there big differences? I see that the base rate of pay is the same although I think EEC have a two week training whereas Shane only provide one. I have an interview with one agency first, so assuming I got that position, I think I'd have to take it, unless of course the other agency was superior to the extent that it would be worth turning it down and then risking another interview. Any experiences, suggestions? Are they substantially different schools?

I have a CELTA, experience teaching various age groups and I'm not too phased by stuff like poor management or broken photocopiers (though its still annoying!). Most of the stuff I've found about Shane is pretty negative but I take internet rants with a bucket of salt and besides, all the posts are dated around 2007/08. I wonder if things have changed since then?

This is not a career move for me but a means to live amongst Japanese culture and meet Japanese people. I'm not a live to work type person but I don't mind a challenge so long as I feel I'm being paid well and treated well my management and most of all, that I feel the students aren't being exploited or mistreated. I was also looking at Interac but began to feel a bit lost at all the possibilities! So any suggestions or advice on any of these subjects would be vastly appreciated! I

Best wishes,

R.S.
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Solar Strength



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are other TEFL destinations, don't get so set on Japan.

Where's Glenski these days, he'd be all over a post like this normally.
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Rooster.



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't remember off the top of my head, but I've heard of shady dealings with Shane. If you can get ECC take that one. I know that ECC also pays either 252,000 or 253,000 for full time and I've heard pretty good things about it.

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rebelsatellite



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One can teach TELF anywhere in the world but one cannot live in Japan anywhere in the world.

If anyone has any recent direct experience they could share beyond the anecdotal that would be fantastic.

Many thanks,

R.S.
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Rooster.



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rebelsatellite wrote:
One can teach TELF anywhere in the world but one cannot live in Japan anywhere in the world.

If anyone has any recent direct experience they could share beyond the anecdotal that would be fantastic.

Many thanks,

R.S.


That statement is kind of contradictory.
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Solar Strength



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rebelsatellite wrote:
One can teach TELF anywhere in the world but one cannot live in Japan anywhere in the world.


I read this and've re-read it. What a weird thought.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where's Glenski these days...


Be careful what you wish for! Mr. Green
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Solar Strength



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DLIguy wrote:
Quote:
Where's Glenski these days...


Be careful what you wish for! Mr. Green


I've recently realized - he's been absent for a long time now. What could be the reason? He's been a mainstay of the Japan forum for the last decade and has posted almost daily. Is he dead?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

His last post seems to have been in March...

He's still listed at his Uni...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DLIguy wrote:
His last post seems to have been in March...

He's still listed at his Uni...


You mean "University of ....."

?????

Well, so he's not dead?
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rtm



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solar Strength wrote:

Well, so he's not dead?

No, he's not dead. He still posts on some other forums (e.g., GaijinPot).
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solar Strength wrote:
DLIguy wrote:
His last post seems to have been in March...

He's still listed at his Uni...


You mean "University of ....."

?????

Well, so he's not dead?


If he wanted the name known, he'd publish it...along with his last name. Besides, both of those are easy to figure out. He's left enuf clues.

But, none of that amounts to a hill of beans. If he's not postin', then he's not postin'. Laughing Wink
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Solar Strength



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DLIguy wrote:
If he wanted the name known, he'd publish it...along with his last name. Besides, both of those are easy to figure out. He's left enuf clues.

But, none of that amounts to a hill of beans. If he's not postin', then he's not postin'. Laughing Wink


He has published it - just not here.

"hill of beans" - nice!

What kind of music does your cat listen to?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tolja before...Love Psychedelico
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DLIguy wrote:
I tolja before...Love Psychedelico


Sorry, forgot.

Nice!
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