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Magic Kingdom: The devil in the details

 
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Wilsonthefarmer



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:19 pm    Post subject: Magic Kingdom: The devil in the details Reply with quote

Saudi Arabia: The devil in the details

New law against domestic abuse is a good first step, yet much more remains to be done.
"After a long and painful fight, legislation outlawing domestic abuse was finally approved by the Saudi Council of Ministers last week. The step came after many years of negotiation in the country's Shura, or advisory council, where it had faced several religious and logistical barriers.

The law was preceded by several smaller steps in recent years. Some Saudi physicians started publishing reports on child abuse cases seen at local hospitals during the 1990s, and the national media began reporting on several landmark cases of domestic abuse. "
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/09/201393134730602749.html

Do not abuse your wife in the Magic Kingdom, if not, you risk prison sentences of up to one year in the black room and up to $13,300 in fines!
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DLIguy



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously, Saudi Arabia is well on its way to joining the Pantheon of Great Modern Nations!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The step came after many years of negotiation in the country's Shura, or advisory council, where it had faced several religious and logistical barriers.


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rollingk



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news. Yet abused women will still need to find a sympathetic male family member to accompany them to file a report.

I've been told there are also anti-littering laws on the books in the kingdom.

Nevertheless, docs should be applauded for following up on these cases.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somewhat off topic (apologies) but I couldn't resist noticing....

There's an interesting relation between DLIguy's and trapezius' avatars these days...the rhythms are much the same, though the outcomes seem different....
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EnglishDoYouSpeakIt



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about legislation forcing police to actually police? All I see them do is drive from one food place to the next and wait in their car for a bag of falafel.

There are no jobs? Triple the police force. Enforce the seatbelts and car seats law (Is there a law about car seats for toddlers?) And how about reckless driving? If that was suddenly outlawed they would have a new source of income that would make the oil money look like pocket change.

Oh, I kid. I accept that which refuses to change, and will keep my head down and pray I'm not collateral damage.
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Sheik Yerbuti



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Progress is a nice word. But change is its motivator. And change has its
enemies."

Robert F Kennedy
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two more baby--but crucial--steps that ensure the country has entered the 19th/20th century.

http://www.arabnews.com/news/464246
http://www.arabnews.com/news/463903
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear trap,

Shway, shway Very Happy

Regards,
John
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Wilsonthefarmer



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trapezius wrote:
Two more baby--but crucial--steps that ensure the country has entered the 19th/20th century.

http://www.arabnews.com/news/464246
http://www.arabnews.com/news/463903

trapezius, what about thousands of foreigners who were born and lived 20 or 30 years of their life in the Magic Kingdom, do they have any chance to apply for the Saudi citizenship?
Is the 10-year rule still valid for people with Masters and PhDs?
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, that law is still applicable as long as you meet the conditions, i.e., continuous residence in Saudi for the past 10 yeas, fluency in Arabic, and the most important, an advanced degree in medicine or engineering (not just any masters or phd).

(Being a Muslim goes with saying)

There might be only a few hundred people who fit those criteria, and I surmise most people with highly advanced training in medicine or engineering do not want to become Saudi citizens.
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