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Meet the 'tutor kings and queens'

 
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kpjf



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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:30 pm    Post subject: Meet the 'tutor kings and queens' Reply with quote

Hi

I have just watched this video on the BBC, and even though it is from November 2012, it's quite interesting Meet the 'tutor kings and queens'

Doesn't look too good for "ugly" tutors in HK, does it?! However, can other countries such as the UK and America learn from cultures obsessed by doing well in school (HK, South Korea etc)?

I know it seems a bit excessive but maybe if there was a balance I think it could be good. I would like to have been brought up with much more of an emphasis placed on this kind of thing to have done better in school, even if I was somewhat forced to do it.
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Wilsonthefarmer



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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems Hong Kong educational system is influenced by �Confucian values�.
The student must obey and respect his teacher without questions or challenge!
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RiverMystic



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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the video again. It's a system that breeds losers. 80% fail - i.e. don't make uni, and the whole system is geared for that - it certainly isn't geared to equip students for life skills.

So if you want the same values and same insane competition, just fail 80% of the students. Next, create a society which is obsessed with face and name (including university names), where your station in life is decided at 18 years of age. Then you'll get a lot of super-motivated students, and with the added national pride of having so many kids who are world champions at test taking (just look at the PISA scores).

Finally, walk out of the streets and see how miserable everyone looks and the total lack of joy in everyone's face - every last hue of joy drained from every last face at about the age of 12 - when the kids enter high school.

Then ask yourself if this is the price you want to pay for getting a bunch of good test scores.
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Cool Teacher



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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hay ! I should apply ! Very Happy

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kpjf



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RiverMystic wrote:
Look at the video again. It's a system that breeds losers. 80% fail - i.e. don't make uni, and the whole system is geared for that - it certainly isn't geared to equip students for life skills.

So if you want the same values and same insane competition, just fail 80% of the students. Next, create a society which is obsessed with face and name (including university names), where your station in life is decided at 18 years of age. Then you'll get a lot of super-motivated students, and with the added national pride of having so many kids who are world champions at test taking (just look at the PISA scores).

Finally, walk out of the streets and see how miserable everyone looks and the total lack of joy in everyone's face - every last hue of joy drained from every last face at about the age of 12 - when the kids enter high school.

Then ask yourself if this is the price you want to pay for getting a bunch of good test scores.


I understand this, and of course it might be difficult and stressful when you're young (I guess it's like South Korea), but how come it's 3rd in the list of the best education systems in the world if 75% fail? Maybe a miserable and stressful adolescence is the price you have to pay for a good education system! But, I don't understand this point about so many failing, yet the education system is the 3rd best in the world. It doesn't make sense for it to be 3rd best yet so many students are denied the opportunity to a university place. Also, it's not fair for poorer families who cannot afford tutors. A big difference if we compare the education system in Finland: free university for all!

    EDUCATION TOP 20 (Source)

    Finland
    South Korea
    Hong Kong
    Japan
    Singapore
    UK
    Netherlands
    New Zealand
    Switzerland
    Canada
    Ireland
    Denmark
    Australia
    Poland
    Germany
    Belgium
    USA
    Hungary
    Slovakia
    Russia
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KarlaMontelibano



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmn, this is interesting Smile
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