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newbie26



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:40 am    Post subject: Ivy English school Reply with quote

Hi,

Just would like to know if anyone has taught at the Ivy English school in Jiamusi Heilongjiang China and also has anyone been through the agency called "academicsinasia". Please advise.

Thanks.
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vikeologist



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's some info here.

http://raoulschinasaloon.com/index.php?topic=7297.0

It does sound like a place where some people will be happy and some won't, so when you talk to people who work there or have done, you'll have to be careful to analyse whether they're like you, and whether you'll feel the same way.

To me it sounds as though the place is awful, but this Paloma Blanca seems to like it. It's a pity that she maybe lost interest in the Saloon because of the way that people (including me) responded. Sad
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muffintop



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You didn't drive anyone away. The account was not real.

Even the app was bull. He/she said they hoped to find a new job after their contract at that school ended.....then in that thread stated how he/she will renew with that same school.

I didn't believe that post when I read it a while ago and I don't believe it now.

Seems to be a school worth staying FAR away from if you are a functioning adult and value privacy.
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newbie26



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for your valuable input. I have taken a look at that link and the post made by Paloma Blanca and it does seem a bit far fetched. I guess now I have to do a bit more research on other schools before I take this huge step in leaving my country to teach abroad.
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muffintop



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

newbie26 wrote:
Thanks guys for your valuable input. I have taken a look at that link and the post made by Paloma Blanca and it does seem a bit far fetched. I guess now I have to do a bit more research on other schools before I take this huge step in leaving my country to teach abroad.


You are right that schools should be researched but no matter what, you'll eventually have to take a leap of faith. 100 FT's can have a great experience at one school but it does not mean you will. The opposite is also true. A change of management and/or policies can also turn a good school into a craphole almost overnight.

You'll won't find something perfect so just try to find a job and location suitable to your personality.

Best of luck!
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thechangling



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The general rule of thumb is to go Public (Uni, Middle or Primary school with low hours) and don't work for a Training centre as your main job. Work for a training centre part-time in addition to your public school/Uni job. You tend to get less problems that way and you can withdraw yourself from the training centre if it's no good cos your residence permit is with the first job.
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vikeologist



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muffintop is right that schools can change very quickly, and I can attest to good schools going to crap because of management changes. (Unfortunately I am the new manager that made everything go to crap Crying or Very sad )

So I think that maybe schools can change for the better as well.

People want different things. Once a colleague and I were applying to new schools. He decided he didn't want to work at a school because they wanted him to do a demo class. I probably wouldn't want to work at a school unless they wanted to find out if I was a good teacher. I had an interview (of sorts) at one school and thought they were an unprofessional joke, but told my colleague about them (both the good and bad impressions) in case he was interested.

Also, you can't make a judgement based on one review. My current place has just one (positive) review on the whole internet as far as I can tell; mine.

I recently took out some of the positive things that are no longer true, but as I still work there, you shouldn't really trust me too much.

When applying to any school you should probably get two opinions.

Incidentally, because of the new stricter regulations, I wouldn't personally recommend working 'illegally' on the side at a training centre. Other threads have covered this in more detail.
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BlueBlood



Joined: 31 Aug 2013
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikeologist wrote:
Muffintop is right that schools can change very quickly, and I can attest to good schools going to crap because of management changes. (Unfortunately I am the new manager that made everything go to crap Crying or Very sad )

So I think that maybe schools can change for the better as well.

People want different things. Once a colleague and I were applying to new schools. He decided he didn't want to work at a school because they wanted him to do a demo class. I probably wouldn't want to work at a school unless they wanted to find out if I was a good teacher. I had an interview (of sorts) at one school and thought they were an unprofessional joke, but told my colleague about them (both the good and bad impressions) in case he was interested.

Also, you can't make a judgement based on one review. My current place has just one (positive) review on the whole internet as far as I can tell; mine.

I recently took out some of the positive things that are no longer true, but as I still work there, you shouldn't really trust me too much.

When applying to any school you should probably get two opinions.

Incidentally, because of the new stricter regulations, I wouldn't personally recommend working 'illegally' on the side at a training centre. Other threads have covered this in more detail.


vike, that's solid advice right there, and I agree in theory. That said, I've directly contacted two unis--no reply at all to my emails. A third, I literally have yet to find a POC for the FAO on the web--even though I know they've many FT's working there.

Mind, I'm going to keep working and keep looking. I just don't know how realistic it'll be to communicate with at least two FT's there already before I commit.

I think mt nails it: At some point, and to some degree, it's going to be a leap of faith.
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