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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:34 pm    Post subject: Burka Reply with quote

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ban-the-Burka-In-Britain/470770653010838

What do you think ?
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ban the monarchy too!
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I await the Red Army !
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Xie Lin



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ick! While rallying the hate-filled, illiterate Rolling Eyes and xenophobic, they are alienating and offending all those who might actually respond to a thoughtful, reasoned argument for placing limits on the wearing of identity-disguising clothing. But I suppose they get more of a thrill from stirring up other angry, like-minded hate-mongers.

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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you approve of the Burka ?
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Xie Lin



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:

So you approve of the Burka ?



Nope. Not in the sense that you mean. And that was exactly my point: I am one of those people who could be sympathetic to their purported goal, but this FB page is so hate-filled and offensive that there is no way they would get my support. Take a look at some of the "jokes" for starters: throwing pork at a mosque is supposed to be FUNNY? It isn't--it's just hateful and provocative. And stupid. I am not particularly PC, either, but this crowd is doing damage to their own cause.

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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A far better idea would be be to hurl pork at Buckingham palace. I mean it has got ham in the name after all. And German princelings just love their sausages!
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those nutters behind the FB page probably also believe that the world is round. I am to announce that the Earth is flat because the crazies believe the opposite ?

All praise to the English judge who recently refused to allow a witness in a burka to testify.

If you want civil rights.............
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever about dukes and dreadnoughts, I find barons to be more costly to society than burkas, and probably more of a bother.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xie Lin wrote:
Ick! While rallying the hate-filled, illiterate Rolling Eyes and xenophobic, they are alienating and offending all those who might actually respond to a thoughtful, reasoned argument for placing limits on the wearing of identity-disguising clothing. But I suppose they get more of a thrill from stirring up other angry, like-minded hate-mongers.

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Nobody would wear a Burka in a western country unless they are nuts or most likely being forced too by an Islamist husband. How's that for reasoning?
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Otterman Ollie



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sash, I'm more interested in hearing why you have such a negative attitude towards the British royal family, have they done something to you? I suspect not, therefore you have some predjuice and hate issues I think!
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never mentioned the royal family (though even that phrase itself makes me cringe). I am sure they are charming people. Germans usually are : )

I said ban the monarchy, along with the rest of the aristocracy. It is not so hard to understand why. Any society which elevates particular individuals on the basis of their birth, their bloodline, cannot make any claims to equality. It does not value all of its citizens equally, and they do not enjoy the same rights. So I say get rid of it.

In the case of the British monarchy, it is also embroiled in the state religion. The head of state is also the titular head of the church of England. A virtual theocracy by any other name... Yet people are more concerned about the evils of burkas, and ignore the iniquities of their own regime.

You define this as prejudice? Not really. Would be more likely that royalists have simply been exposed to Piggie propaganda for most of their lives, and so cannot distinguish between a genuine desire for social justice and mere hatred.
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BadBeagleBad



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plumpy nut wrote:


Nobody would wear a Burka in a western country unless they are nuts or most likely being forced too by an Islamist husband. How's that for reasoning?


You might be surprised. Now that I am older and not so comely it isn't a problem. But when I was younger I was at times on the receiving end of very unwanted attention from certain elements of the male population. I wouldn't have minded wearing a burka so I could move about without said attention. BUT it would have been MY choice and not someone forced on me. For all that many people are horrified that such a thing should be forced on women, no one seems to care much that many men force unwanted and uncomfortable attention on women at time, and that some women might see this as a welcome refuge.
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