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mateacher
Joined: 07 Sep 2013 Posts: 180
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:50 am Post subject: Good jobs with compounds |
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Are there any universities with real compounds i.e. not like KFUPM.
Or other jobs with compounds, I guess BAE or Aramco direct hire, but what are the vacations like with non-uni positions? |
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scot47

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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:37 am Post subject: |
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As far as I know, there are no universities in KSA with "compounds"., You want that then try Aramco. Or British Aerospace. What is you objection to a campus like KFUPM ?
Not sure about the new womeen's uni in Riyadh - PNU. |
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Sheik Yerbuti
Joined: 02 Dec 2012 Posts: 105 Location: the promised land
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:28 am Post subject: |
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I get 3 months a year. Non-uni jobs vary quite a bit. |
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jaffa
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Mateacher - Re. thread title, you should delete the adjective.  |
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mateacher
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:11 am Post subject: |
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haha one can only hope
Yes, KFUPM sounds great but my wife said no to wearing an Abaya plus may be boring for her.
Whats the non-uni job with 3 months? I wouldn't mind that. |
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lcanupp1964

Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Posts: 381
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:57 am Post subject: |
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No official compounds at KAU in Jeddah for teachers. KAU does have housing, on campus, but only for Saudi nationals. There are many places outside the campus. They cost a lot, but some are very nice. |
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sicklyman
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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your nationality in Aramco will determine which compounds you can live on. Currently, no non-US teachers are allowed to move onto the Dhahran Aramco compound. If you're direct hire with Aramco, you are not going to be offered Dhahran housing unless you're from the US. You may be offered Ras Tanura compound and expected to commute each day. Not fun. you can take a sizeable allowance towards living off compound as compensation.
As for holidays, contracted to Aramco you get 2 weeks mandatory leave roughly every four months i.e. 6 weeks a year. You can often extend this to 3 or more (depending on the workload) if you are willing to take unpaid leave which many of us do. This is on top of the two Eids and the few other national holidays.
Something else to consider, contracted teachers to Aramco get flights for each of those three leave periods. Aramcons get one flight a year albeit business class. Not sure how much leave they are entitled to though. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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If your wife doesn't want and/or refuses to wear an abaya, I suggest that you choose another country. Get a job elsewhere in the Gulf where this isn't an issue.
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nomad soul

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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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mateacher wrote: |
...my wife said no to wearing an Abaya plus may be boring for her. |
Ditto VS' suggestion about searching for jobs in the other less-restrictive Gulf countries where women aren't required to wear an abaya. |
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teachr11
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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I'm wondering if he means she doesn't want to wear an abaya while ON the compound. To be honest, I wouldn't want to, either. What's the point of living in a compound if you have to stay covered up? |
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scot47

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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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KSA is not for you. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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teachr11 wrote: |
I'm wondering if he means she doesn't want to wear an abaya while ON the compound. To be honest, I wouldn't want to, either. What's the point of living in a compound if you have to stay covered up? |
Many of the compounds include Saudis and other Muslims who may wish to have their neighbors complying with local rules. Living on a "compound" doesn't guarantee that you will live with only Westerners and can do everything the same as back "home." The posh all expat compounds are not normally the places that mere TEFL teachers get to live - especially true of university teachers.
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salamiandbacon
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Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:12 am Post subject: |
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FYI your wife doesn't have to wear an abaya in the accommodation part of the campus. She will, of course, have to have one when going off campus and as others have said, if she can't bear the thought, try another country. Having said that, most women do (grudgingly) get used to it.
It is one of the main reasons pay is higher in KSA than most other countries. So think of an wearing an abaya as earning 20% of your salary. |
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mateacher
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Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:42 am Post subject: |
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I was told that even in the accommodation part of the campus women get shouted at for not wearing them.
I can look at it that way but if I tell her that she will start asking for the 20% as her stipend. |
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JustinC
Joined: 15 Mar 2013 Posts: 138 Location: The Land That Time Forgot
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Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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I find often the people who get unstuck are those who travel to a foreign country with fixed assumptions and demands. Unless your skills are astronomically unique it's unlikely a company, regardless of nationality, will take kindly to you or your other half making unreasonable demands. And I wouldn't want to be in your shoes, mateacher, living with someone who really doesn't want to be there. She already knows two of the disadvantages so must have done some research. |
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