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weshh1
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 Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:55 pm Post subject: Special Ed abroad? |
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Hi,
Im currently applying to Grad schools for my Masters in Special Education. ESE k-12. I may also be getting a Masters in Applied Behavior Analysis at the same time. My focus may be Autism Spectrum Disorders.
What type of job market is there for a Native English speaker with a MA in special ed? Could I land a good job at an international school with this qualification? Or university?
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:37 am Post subject: Re: Special Ed abroad? |
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| weshh1 wrote: |
| What type of job market is there for a Native English speaker with a MA in special ed? Could I land a good job at an international school with this qualification? Or university? |
See my response to your other related thread. But in a nutshell, not for university-level positions since special ed focuses on young learners with special needs and not adult EFL learners. Teach Away focuses on public/international school teaching opportunities; give their site a look to see what type of qualifications you'd need. |
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weshh1
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| Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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You bring up a good point with the young learners.
I couldnt find anything specific on teach away about ESE. Im sure there must be some positions out there at international schools because there is a growing number of kids being diagnosed with Autism and other things. I saw a school in Singapore that was for Autistic kids but I havent seen much else.
Im also wondering if anyone knows if there are certain countries that have higher pay for Special Education teachers? |
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spiral78
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Any way you slice it, you would be competing against local teachers with competitive qualifications PLUS local language skills. Other countries also have Special Ed majors at their own universities - it's not like the US is the only country training special ed teachers.....
For example, I happen to know of German, Dutch, and Czech special ed instructors all teaching in their own countries...no real need to import an American....
Given the prevalence of autism and etc in the US, I'd guess the market for an English speaking MA holder of Special Ed quals would be strongest there, frankly. |
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weshh1
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You bring up a good point with the young learners.
I see a school in Abu dhabi for a special ed teacher. Dont see much else.
Im also wondering if anyone knows if there are certain countries that have higher pay for Special Education teachers?
The pay seems pretty standard for Abu Dhabi |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| weshh1 wrote: |
I see a school in Abu dhabi for a special ed teacher. Dont see much else. Im also wondering if anyone knows if there are certain countries that have higher pay for Special Education teachers?
The pay seems pretty standard for Abu Dhabi |
Yet, there's a posting for a senior special ed teacher with 7 years of teaching experience---salary at around $8000/mo. It seems you're under the assumption there are plenty of current openings for special ed teachers. That's not likely since recruitment usually follows the school year. I suggest you do an Internet search using salary for ma special education to get an idea of what you could be worth once you've completed your degree and get some relevant experience under your belt. |
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RussianWinter
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| Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| There is a market for private ESL teaching for students with special needs here in Moscow. My friend is doing quite well teaching individual students who fall under this category (mostly young children). I gather that's not what you're looking for, but it does exist. |
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nomad soul
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| RussianWinter wrote: |
| There is a market for private ESL teaching for students with special needs here in Moscow. My friend is doing quite well teaching individual students who fall under this category (mostly young children). |
You might clarify what you mean by doing quite well. |
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weshh1
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| Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| RussianWinter wrote: |
| There is a market for private ESL teaching for students with special needs here in Moscow. My friend is doing quite well teaching individual students who fall under this category (mostly young children). I gather that's not what you're looking for, but it does exist. |
Well, that is the perfect example of what im looking for actually! Could you provide more detail as to what "quite well" consists of?
Nomad i didnt see that job, I just did a brief search. Im sure there was a good bit I missed.
Im pretty familiar what the "salary for ma special education" is in the united states. I just havent been able to find much information on if it differs in other countries. Im not under the assumption that there are plenty of openings, from what I;ve read in South Korea for a foreign ESE teacher there are slim to none. BUt I know that special education is a high demand field in the US, there is a lack of teachers. I have a hunch that the US is not the only country like this. That is why I made this thread. I want to find out where there is a demand for special ed. teachers in other countries and what different salaries are like in these countries. |
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spiral78
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| Im pretty familiar what the "salary for ma special education" is in the united states. I just havent been able to find much information on if it differs in other countries. |
It does make the market quite a lot smaller when special ed kids need to be taught in their first language as versus a second one.....that's why the vast majority of special ed teachers are local and speak the local language, obviously. |
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nomad soul
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| weshh1 wrote: |
| Im pretty familiar what the "salary for ma special education" is in the united states. I just havent been able to find much information on if it differs in other countries. Im not under the assumption that there are plenty of openings, from what I;ve read in South Korea for a foreign ESE teacher there are slim to none. BUt I know that special education is a high demand field in the US, there is a lack of teachers. I have a hunch that the US is not the only country like this. That is why I made this thread. I want to find out where there is a demand for special ed. teachers in other countries and what different salaries are like in these countries. |
The problem is you're asking these questions on a forum dedicated to EFL/ESL and not special education nor content teaching. Anyway, I suggest you include the countries you're interested in when doing an Internet search on special ed. |
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rtm
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| weshh1 wrote: |
| But I know that special education is a high demand field in the US, there is a lack of teachers. I have a hunch that the US is not the only country like this. That is why I made this thread. I want to find out where there is a demand for special ed. teachers in other countries and what different salaries are like in these countries. |
Others have said this (spiral in particular), and I commented on it in your other thread, but do you want to be a special ed teacher, or do you want to be an English teacher specifically for special ed students? Yes, there is a need in many countries all over the world for special ed teachers, as there is in the US. But, I'm not sure there is much demand for special ed teachers who only teach English as a foreign language. If you want to be a general special ed teacher (not just for EFL), then you'll run into the obstacles of 1) not being licensed in the foreign country and 2) not speaking the local language, which would be necessary for all other subjects and activities besides English (and sometimes necessary then also).
There might be some need for English-speaking special ed teachers at English-medium international schools, but I really don't know. |
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weshh1
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You all bring up very good points. It does seem apparent that atleast for more severe special ed students they need to focus learning there home language first. I would be open to either teaching english to special ed learners or just teaching special ed.
I agree it seems like there are hurdles to this and in the end it might not be the most practical thing in the world. Perhaps at international schools there are some classes that fit the bill, I guess ill just keep digging around and see if I find anything.
Thanks for all the honest opinions everyone. |
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spiral78
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[quote] I would be open to either teaching english to special ed learners or just teaching special ed.[/quote]
Ok, still not sure it's clear - forgive me if it is. But imagine a classroom full of, say, Russian special ed students. How would you teach them 'special ed' unless you can speak Russian?
This is why the market for special ed 'abroad' is going to be very limited. Unless you can speak the students' first language, or if they are ready to learn a second language, it's just not feasible. |
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santi84
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I'm not sure there is much of a market for special education abroad (for English-speaking students such as expat children - ie. international schools).
My son has autism and we are finding it increasingly difficult to try and help him adapt to a non-English environment, so we're throwing in the towel and moving back home. I think a lot of parents in similar circumstances would do the same. It's hard enough, to add a language barrier/expat status on top of that? It's a bit much. I'm sure the market exists, but it is likely quite small. |
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