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Official move to reduce English teaching in public schools

 
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:12 am    Post subject: Official move to reduce English teaching in public schools Reply with quote

I've been told that it is now official policy - at least in Shandong, to reduce English teaching hours for students. This will be achieved by reducing FT oral hours.
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johntpartee



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reduced from what to what? Is that oral English or all the other stuff (writing, etc.)? What I mean is some places I've been the students were in oral English classes three hours per week; most other places it's been one to one and a half hours per week.
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No disrespect to the OP, but I'll believe it when I see it actually start to happen.

No evidence of it here yet in the Great Kingdom of the Four Rivers.

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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fat_chris wrote:
No disrespect to the OP, but I'll believe it when I see it actually start to happen.

No evidence of it here yet in the Great Kingdom of the Four Rivers.

Warm regards,
fat_chris


I'm not married to the idea Chris, just passing on a bit of info I picked up today.
As mentioned in my post it is the oral that seems to be targeted.
The FT teaches in a partnership programme and is a subject teacher in the finance area. The teaching language is English.
Her students this semester also get FT oral lessons, but the school admin are saying that the oral will be cut as the students must have good enough English if the can gain passes in a subject taught in that language.
We agreed that Chinese can listen, cram and pass, but joining two three spoken words together is difficult for them.
It is doubly worrying as some of the students want to leverage their Chinese degree to further study with the partner school in another country.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This link seems to counter the idea of reducing Oral English, or the task is being seen as something CTs can and should do.
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90882/8468508.html
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may be behind what my friend (mentioned in OP) was talking about.
If students get into tertiary study with pretty dodgy English now, this ain't gonna help.
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/203691/8434806.html
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WLamar



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite a strange claim as I've been approached by the local government (in Shandong) to teach in 5 primary and middle schools in the city; in fact, INCREASING the students weekly English lesson load by 2 hours per week for each class.

OP, what's your official, documented source of this supposed government move?
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muffintop



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WLamar wrote:
Quite a strange claim as I've been approached by the local government (in Shandong) to teach in 5 primary and middle schools in the city; in fact, INCREASING the students weekly English lesson load by 2 hours per week for each class.

OP, what's your official, documented source of this supposed government move?


There isn't one Skippy. I thought that would have been clear when he said..
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I've been told that.....


But hey, your anecdotal evidence is better than his amirite?
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PBirm123



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha! I'd like to see 'em try.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whaaat???
The People's Daily is the official government newspaper.
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fat_chris



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
I'm not married to the idea Chris, just passing on a bit of info I picked up today.
As mentioned in my post it is the oral that seems to be targeted.
The FT teaches in a partnership programme and is a subject teacher in the finance area. The teaching language is English.
Her students this semester also get FT oral lessons, but the school admin are saying that the oral will be cut as the students must have good enough English if the can gain passes in a subject taught in that language.
We agreed that Chinese can listen, cram and pass, but joining two three spoken words together is difficult for them.
It is doubly worrying as some of the students want to leverage their Chinese degree to further study with the partner school in another country.


Ah, I see. Cheers for this tidbit, NS.

Warm regards,
fat_chris
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wonderingjoesmith



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the word is that the new Chinese president told his people they were to learn Chinese culture, language and history more than English.
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