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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 1:22 pm    Post subject: Signed offer, silence Reply with quote

Has anyone signed an offer letter and then the school goes silent. Is that a sign to move on with another school or is that normal procedure?
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soheeb16



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I wouldn't know but I would prompt you to add this additional detail: How long have they been silent? Someone can correct me, but I have heard email correspondence is more slow-placed over there, and I am assuming that is doubly so during recruiting season due to a the high volume of emails.
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks soheeb.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Signed offer, silence Reply with quote

Yasuke wrote:
Is that a sign to move on with another school or is that normal procedure?

It's a sign that they're very likely processing the block visa request to the Ministry of Labor. Once the block visa request is approved, your employer will then obtain a visa authorization number and an electronic power of attorney authorized by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Yep, it takes time---sometimes up to three weeks. Learn to be patient.
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mnruman



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to know, I read somewhere on this forum the Saudis are very laid back in regards to replying back to emails so dont get overly concerned. Its a shame because as a candidate you cant help but to be eager to know whats happening and if theres anything you need to do.

It also helps if you knew start date etc so you can prepare, I know of a friend of a friend who applied, they conformed he got the job didnt reply for 2 weeks and then gave him literally 3 days to get over there. He was rushing and stressing but seems to have settled from what I've heard.
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mnruman wrote:
prepare


Prepare? Hmmm... look around you. Look at all the things you love. Soon they will all be gone. Enjoy them while you can.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would take a lack of desire on the part of the employer to communicate with someone who just signed a contract a red flag. If an employer doesn't feel the need to make reasonable contact with a potential employee, they may slack on other important things as well.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mnruman wrote:
I read somewhere on this forum the Saudis are very laid back in regards to replying back to emails so dont get overly concerned. Its a shame because as a candidate you cant help but to be eager to know whats happening and if theres anything you need to do.

It also helps if you knew start date etc so you can prepare, I know of a friend of a friend who applied, they conformed he got the job didnt reply for 2 weeks and then gave him literally 3 days to get over there. He was rushing and stressing but seems to have settled from what I've heard.

Don't assume that response time is slow because Saudis are "very laid back" when it comes to replying to emails. Job seekers often complain about having to jump through a lot of hoops for an employment visa. During peak hiring season, that Saudi employer is also having to deal with a lot of bureaucracy at their end many times over. (Keep in mind, some places have several dozen teachers to bring over, while others are expecting to fill several hundred positions.) Anyway, it's easier to label them as laid back, but that's not a fair assessment.

As for that teacher who was given a few days to get to KSA, it seems he was issued a business visit visa and not a proper work visa. Plus, he should have asked the company upfront about timeframes instead of just passively waiting around for an email from them.
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point plumpynut.
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sicklyman



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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah Yasuke.... natsukashii

anyway... I think what the OP is experiencing is standard for Saudi and nomad is, as almost always, spot on.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless the pay is high and its a good employer by Saudi standards, find another job.
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teflguyusa



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:12 am    Post subject: aGREE Reply with quote

Agree with the other posts, interview and sign other contracts as back-ups. You are tied to a specific school once you start the visa process with them.
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Yasuke



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good stuff guys, useful information.
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ex500



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

" sign other contracts as back-ups"

What do you say to the back-ups when it is clear you are no longer trying to work for them?
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ESL Wayfarer



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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...reciprocate the silent treatment...
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