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		anvilman
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:39 pm    Post subject: TESL Canada Professional  Certificate Standard 3? | 
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				Hi all, 
 
 
I'm wondering if anybody has experience with the TESL Canada Professional 
 
Certificate Standard 3? 
 
 
I'm soon to complete an MA in TESL at UBC, have teaching experience and will complete a practicum. Once all of this is done, TESL Canada should certify me with the Standard 3 designation. 
 
 
Has anybody out there received this and gone on the job market? How has it been received by employers? Any difference from those who attended a teacher-training program outside the universities? 
 
 
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		ETG
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:49 pm    Post subject: TESL standard 3 | 
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				I'm not sure if you are asking about Standard 3 for domestic purposes or overseas.  Overseas I am not sure anyone gives a hoot, but in Canada employers will.
 
 
I have Standard 2 and have not bothered to apply for 3 (have master's etc.)
 
through sloth, and the fact that I know it will not make a salary difference to my employer (in Canada)
 
 
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		GambateBingBangBOOM
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:30 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				You would probably find it hard to find anybody who has even heard of TESL Canada outside of North America. 
 
 
But having an MA TESL as well as having done a SUPERVISED teaching practicum WILL mean something to employers. | 
			 
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		LongShiKong
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				TESL Canada must think the 'C' stands for Canada otherwise why would they accept the CELTA but not the DELTA?      | 
			 
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		timothypfox
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:54 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| Actually TESOL Canada is not really well-known outside of Canada. Worked as an ESL teacher in NYC for about 10 years and never heard of TESOL Canada. | 
			 
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		LongShiKong
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:26 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | Actually TESOL Canada is not really well-known outside of Canada. Worked as an ESL teacher in NYC for about 10 years and never heard of TESOL Canada. | 
	 
 
 
 
It doesn't need to be.  TESOL Canada is not a course but a national standards council which 'recognizes' certain teacher training programs offered in Canada to fulfill one of 3 pro standards.  A 100 hr entry level course such as CELTA is a level 1 and an MA TESOL or equivalent ranks at level 3.  Any course not on their 'recognition' list such as the DELTA offered in Vancouver and Toronto requires a PLAR. | 
			 
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		timothypfox
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:16 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | TESOL Canada is not a course but a national standards council which 'recognizes' certain teacher training programs offered in Canada to fulfill one of 3 pro standards. | 
	 
 
 
Yes, I understand that it is a required licensing that you receive after submitting you various certificates and universities degrees, along with career work experience in ESL/EFL.
 
 
From the web site it looks like it is possible to get recognition for teacher training programs offered outside of Canada. I think foreign programs that you studied in are reviewed on a case by case basis - and if recognized, TESOL Canada will give you the equivalent acknowledgement. | 
			 
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		LongShiKong
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  I understand that it is a required licensing....
 
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Hardly! Even Standard 3 (M.A TESL/DELTA + exp) won't allow you to teach ESL except at the tertiary level or gov't funded ESL for adult programs?   Same as the US? | 
			 
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		santi84
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:02 am    Post subject:  | 
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				TESL 1 - Trucked through CELTA (four weeks)
 
TESL 2 - Lingered through two or three full-time university semesters (one or two years post-grad)
 
TESL 3 - Got an MA in TESOL/DELTA and still buying ramen noodles for dinner
 
 
That is a VERY simple assessment. I'm working my way up to ramen noodles with a hefty student loan. | 
			 
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