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ben.detw
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 Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:28 am Post subject: Need help with FTCE test for teacher cert |
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Hello,
I just took the FTCE test for Physical education and did not pass. I thought the test was extremely difficult and had a lot of questions that were quite obscure.
My question is, what do you think is the easiest content area exam to pass?
Thanks,
Ben |
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hochhasd
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:24 am Post subject: Re: Need help with FTCE test for teacher cert |
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| ben.detw wrote: |
Hello,
I just took the FTCE test for Physical education and did not pass. I thought the test was extremely difficult and had a lot of questions that were quite obscure.
My question is, what do you think is the easiest content area exam to pass?
Thanks,
Ben |
If you graduated with a degree in education your college should be able to help you. As far as easy, I have heard that PE exam is supposed to be easy. The GK exam is the one most people have a problem with. By the way you are posting a question that only a person that lives in Florida and deals with education would have the answer to. What is your major? |
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ben.detw
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| I graduated with a degree in Marketing. Currently, I am taking the TeacherReady program to get certified. Will a provisional license be sufficient enough for an international school? |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:26 am Post subject: |
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You hold a marketing degree yet are trying to get licensed to teach physical ed? My understanding is that the teaching license should reflect the teacher's degree major/area of study; that would be the content or subject he/she is trained to teach in. Plus, many international schools require applicants have a couple of years of teaching experience in their subject.
I suggest you do some more research on what international schools are looking for before you put more time and effort into securing a teaching license. |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| A provisional (or full) license to teach P.E. is unlikely to land a position at an international school. |
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hochhasd
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
You hold a marketing degree yet are trying to get licensed to teach physical ed? My understanding is that the teaching license should reflect the teacher's degree major/area of study; that would be the content or subject he/she is trained to teach in. Plus, many international schools require applicants have a couple of years of teaching experience in their subject.
I suggest you do some more research on what international schools are looking for before you put more time and effort into securing a teaching license. |
This is not always true with the state of Florida. I will be taking the same program and it depends upon the subject area that you will test in . I believe PE is one of the areas that you are not required to hold a degree in .When it comes to getting a certification in a field that you did not major in it is not hard to get a job in that area if an international school is willing to accept it. The state of Florida will grant it, but each school district will not hire being you don't have the number of course hours required. Example: You can take the ESOL subject area exam and it will show on your teacher certification, but to be able to teach the course in Florida you must have a degree in LA or have a certain number of course hours. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| hochhasd wrote: |
| When it comes to getting a certification in a field that you did not major in it is not hard to get a job in that area if an international school is willing to accept it. |
That's a big if.
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| The state of Florida will grant it, but each school district will not hire being you don't have the number of course hours required. Example: You can take the ESOL subject area exam and it will show on your teacher certification, but to be able to teach the course in Florida you must have a degree in LA or have a certain number of course hours. |
Which is essentially iffy as well. Still not a sound plan considering the better international schools expect to see teaching experience in the content area and gained stateside, post-licensure. |
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hochhasd
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| Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| hochhasd wrote: |
| When it comes to getting a certification in a field that you did not major in it is not hard to get a job in that area if an international school is willing to accept it. |
That's a big if.
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| The state of Florida will grant it, but each school district will not hire being you don't have the number of course hours required. Example: You can take the ESOL subject area exam and it will show on your teacher certification, but to be able to teach the course in Florida you must have a degree in LA or have a certain number of course hours. |
Which is essentially iffy as well. Still not a sound plan considering the better international schools expect to see teaching experience in the content area and gained stateside, post-licensure. |
I don't know about international schools, but in Florida gaining position has to do more with luck and knowing some one. As far as teaching experience in that field...well that depends on who you know. All these questions that the poster is asking about teaching in the states can be answered by the people that run the program he/she will be taking.  |
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MedellinHeel
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Need help with FTCE test for teacher cert |
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| ben.detw wrote: |
Hello,
I just took the FTCE test for Physical education and did not pass. I thought the test was extremely difficult and had a lot of questions that were quite obscure.
My question is, what do you think is the easiest content area exam to pass?
Thanks,
Ben |
Did you not print the study guide provided by Florida Dept. of Education?
Also did you not purchase on the the independently made study guides one can buy off Amazon?
As for easy, id imagine elementary ed should be easy.
I am doing the exact same program right now. Stressed over passing my exam as well (mathematics) |
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MedellinHeel
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
You hold a marketing degree yet are trying to get licensed to teach physical ed? My understanding is that the teaching license should reflect the teacher's degree major/area of study; that would be the content or subject he/she is trained to teach in. Plus, many international schools require applicants have a couple of years of teaching experience in their subject.
I suggest you do some more research on what international schools are looking for before you put more time and effort into securing a teaching license. |
I suggest you do some research on international schools.
People get hired every year with non related degrees and zero experience.
3rd tier schools even hire people without licenses. |
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johnslat
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Are those schools - I thought they were international sweatshops? 
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John |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| MedellinHeel wrote: |
| nomad soul wrote: |
| I suggest you do some more research on what international schools are looking for before you put more time and effort into securing a teaching license. |
I suggest you do some research on international schools.
People get hired every year with non related degrees and zero experience. 3rd tier schools even hire people without licenses. |
I have no interest in teaching in an international school. However, according to Teach Away's site, the better schools require teachers have a license and teaching experience relative to their degree major. So, if the OP is still interested in teaching in the lucrative Middle East, the path he's presently choosing won't get him here. |
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MedellinHeel
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| MedellinHeel wrote: |
| nomad soul wrote: |
| I suggest you do some more research on what international schools are looking for before you put more time and effort into securing a teaching license. |
I suggest you do some research on international schools.
People get hired every year with non related degrees and zero experience. 3rd tier schools even hire people without licenses. |
I have no interest in teaching in an international school. However, according to Teach Away's site, the better schools require teachers have a license and teaching experience relative to their degree major. So, if the OP is still interested in teaching in the lucrative Middle East, the path he's presently choosing won't get him here. |
Pretty much all schools claim to require x amount of experience. However, the reality is that is not the case. Especially for lower tiered schools and schools in undesirable locations. Hell, even good schools hire people without experience. There is no one shoe fits all.
Also, if you knew about International Teaching you would know the ME (along with China) is where a lot of beginner teachers get their first gig.
The path the OP has choose will most certainly get him any where he wants to go with a bit of perseverance, connections, and luck. |
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johnslat
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Dear MedellinHeel.
"Also, if you knew about International Teaching you would know the ME (along with China) is where a lot of beginner teachers get their first gig."
Well, I spent only 20 years in the Middle East, so my experience is limited. However, every International School teacher that I ever met over there was very well-qualified and experienced (and often in their 40s and above). And if you'll check international school job openings on the Net, I believe you'd have difficulty finding one that says "Novice teachers wanted for reputable international school. No experience necessary. non-related degree OK, no license required."
But it doesn't seem to bother you at all that your posts could be misleading readers who don't know what it's like in the Middle East and possibly affecting their lives adversely.
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John |
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MedellinHeel
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Dear MedellinHeel.
"Also, if you knew about International Teaching you would know the ME (along with China) is where a lot of beginner teachers get their first gig."
Well, I spent only 20 years in the Middle East, so my experience is limited. However, every International School teacher that I ever met over there was very well-qualified and experienced (and often in their 40s and above). And if you'll check international school job openings on the Net, I believe you'd have difficulty finding one that says "Novice teachers wanted for reputable international school. No experience necessary. non-related degree OK, no license required."
But it doesn't seem to bother you at all that your posts could be misleading readers who don't know what it's like in the Middle East and possibly affecting their lives adversely.
Regards,
John |
I guess you didnt read what I wrote. I said very clearly every school says the require x amount of experience and blah blah. But as well all know, what people say is not always the reality of the situation. There is no one shoe fits all.
Do you know about the tier system? Lower tiered schools can not attract experienced teachers, and thus hire newbies and sometimes people that dont even hold licenses. Every country has them. This is not even mentioning good schools (tier 1's) that have hired newbie teachers.
If the OP would like to go to a forum FOR International Teachers, and ask teachers in the ME that will echo what I say than he can PM me.
I am getting my license right now and have spent countless hours researching and talking with International School teachers. I think I got a good pulse on things, but hey, think what you want.
In closing, the reality of the situation is this
All schools are gonna claim or say you need x experience. More preference than actual rule. Having a license is the only generally accepted rule / requirement for most reputable International Schools.
The best schools (tier 1's) generally due require experience and connections, but have been known to hire newbies. Tier 2's and 3's def hire newbies and is where many new teachers start their career before moving up the ladder.
To the OP, get your license and try to get the best job possible. This might be in the ME or it might be in another location It might be a good school or a not so good school. When you are starting out, a lot comes down to timing and luck. |
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