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UNISA stole my money!

 
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simon44



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject: UNISA stole my money! Reply with quote

Well, that's really the long and short of it.

Last year, I applied to study for an on-line PhD in Science Education, (my MSc from London University is in Engineering).

I completed the registration process and paid my registration fee. I then needed to propose a research topic for the application to be approved. That research topic needed to be agreed with my 2 research mentors at the college.

Well, try as I might, I was unable to get in contact with these 2 persons. All my emails were not replied to. I did get their contact email addresses from the university registrar, but still no reply from them...

All this time, the registrar was hassling me to complete my application process.

I sent several emails direct to the registrar, highlighting my urgent problem, that I wanted to follow this course of study, but how could I proceed if the research department refused to reply to my emails?

As yet, the registrar has not replied and their applications team are giving me a final warning to submit my pre-approved research topic or have my application rejected!!

Does anyone have any suggestions how to resolve this problem? Perhaps the personal email address of the UNISA Chancellor?

As far as I am concerned, UNISA has scammed me out of my application fee.

Simon
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rtm



Joined: 13 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: UNISA stole my money! Reply with quote

simon44 wrote:
I did get their contact email addresses from the university registrar, but still no reply from them...
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but how could I proceed if the research department refused to reply to my emails?
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I sent several emails direct to the registrar,.... As yet, the registrar has not replied
Have you tried calling on the telephone? I've found that that works better in situations such as this than email.

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As far as I am concerned, UNISA has scammed me out of my application fee.
While I agree that they do need to respond to you, I wouldn't agree that you were scammed out of anything. When one submits an application fee, one must have a reasonable expectation that one might be rejected, and the application fee lost. The question here is whether you were actually considered or not.
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simon44



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The question here is whether you were actually considered or not.


Not would seem to be the case, since one cannot be considered unless one submits a research topic proposal that is approved by the college mentors - the latter seem to be incommunicado....

I will keep trying to contact them Smile

Simon
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HLJHLJ



Joined: 06 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really understand the situation. Did the university advise you to apply like this?

In the UK the usual procedure for a PhD is to find someone willing to supervise you first, then you agree a topic with them, then you agree a second supervisor between you, and then you make an application.

If you just applied to potential supervisors on spec without any previous contact with them, most would probably never even read the email. Taking on a PhD student is a big responsibility and many professors will have a rough 10 year+ plan for the PhDs they are interested in supervising. On top of that, most universities have caps on the number of PhD students a supervisor can have at any one time.

So you would usually be expected to have all of that in place before making a formal application.
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simon44



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't really understand the situation. Did the university advise you to apply like this?


Yes, the procedure (as detailed on their web-site), is to first register with the university as a potential PhD student, (which involves sending them a fee).

After getting your registration number, the next step is to contact the relevant department for your PhD studies to discuss/agree on a research topic. I was provided with 2 names/email addresses as the persons whom I should contact in the College of Education.

I have emailed them many times, and then also emailed the registration department etc - all to no avail. I never get any emails except from the registration department to tell me that if I don't submit my research proposal soon, all bets are off.

I'll try telephoning, but TBH it's a piss-poor way to run a university application system.

Simon
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HLJHLJ



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds crazy. I assume this is the UNISA in South Africa not the one in Australia?
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simon44



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, UNISA, South Africa.

According to my research about UNISA, their distance-learning PhD courses have a reasonable reputation, but other posters have also highlighted problems with the initial registration process.

Simon
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PattyFlipper



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While UNISA's distance education programme is one of the oldest, cheapest and most extensive of the English medium universities, they do unfortunately have something of a poor reputation regarding their unresponsive administrative systems and indifferent student support.

Sorry, I don't really have any advice to offer. I know a couple of people who embarked on post-graduate degree courses with UNISA who eventually switched to other universities, due to communication difficulties with mentors / tutors and the university administration. Cheap doesn't necessarily equal good. Have you looked at the offerings of either the University of London or University of Leicester? They'll be more expensive, but are a lot more client-focused and easier to deal with.
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