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yb713
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 Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:48 pm Post subject: What are my options w/ Ass. of Arts and CELTA? |
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| I'll have an Associate of Arts degree, teaching ecperience, and a one month TEFL certification, more than likely, a CELTA. I'm a native speaker of English and African American. My first and last names are not English. I will be 19 or 20 at my time of application. Which countries do you know of that I meet the qualifications for? I'm geared toward Asia. I was considering Indonesia but they now require 5 years and a BA. How about Taiwan? |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Your ethnicity isn't the issue; it's your young age and lack of a BA that will hinder your chances for legit TEFL work, even in Asia. |
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yb713
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| Your ethnicity isn't the issue; it's your young age and lack of a BA that will hinder your chances for legit TEFL work, even in Asia. |
I appreciate that information, but can will you clarify whether ethnicity and a non English name are not an issue or they are not the larger issue. Do you have any information about countries whose requirements I meet to teach legally? |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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They are not the larger issue. Your age is, as is your lack of a 4-year degree, which is required by many governments for a foreigner to be issued a work visa as a teacher.
Going abroad before being of legal age means that any employer will think twice (more than twice) about getting you a visa - and thereby being to any degree responsible for you/your conduct in a country where you do not likely speak the local language, have no family or established friends, and may very possibly get into any sort of trouble - even totally innocently.
You might also not want to call it an Ass. of Arts, frankly. That will make people laugh, but they may be even less likely to credit it very highly. |
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yb713
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| spiral78 wrote: |
They are not the larger issue. Your age is, as is your lack of a 4-year degree, which is required by many governments for a foreigner to be issued a work visa as a teacher.
Going abroad before being of legal age means that any employer will think twice (more than twice) about getting you a visa - and thereby being to any degree responsible for you/your conduct in a country where you do not likely speak the local language, have no family or established friends, and may very possibly get into any sort of trouble - even totally innocently.
You might also not want to call it an Ass. of Arts, frankly. That will make people laugh, but they may be even less likely to credit it very highly. |
What is the "legal age" and which countries offer a visa for a 2 year degree with a CELTA? I know that a BA is not necessary for all of Asia as Taiwan takes in people with an Associates and Indonesia used to. |
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yb713
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I figured I was in the green since the CELTA requirement is 18. |
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teach4life
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Just try getting a job with HESS in Taiwan. If they won't hire you, nobody in Asia will. Use that as your benchmark. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| yb713 wrote: |
| I figured I was in the green since the CELTA requirement is 18. |
The CELTA (and any other form of certification, for that matter), isn't the benchmark for legal work requirements worldwide.
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yb713
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| teach4life wrote: |
| Just try getting a job with HESS in Taiwan. If they won't hire you, nobody in Asia will. Use that as your benchmark. |
Should I settle for part time? Will I be able to sustain myself if I recieve a position and is savings possible? Should I look on the ground or online, if on the ground , how many months should I prepare for? |
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MuscatGary
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| You'l be better off in the long-term if you stay where you are, continue to study and get a degree before trying to travel and teach. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| yb713 wrote: |
| teach4life wrote: |
| Just try getting a job with HESS in Taiwan. If they won't hire you, nobody in Asia will. Use that as your benchmark. |
Should I settle for part time? Will I be able to sustain myself if I recieve a position and is savings possible? Should I look on the ground or online, if on the ground , how many months should I prepare for? |
Yb713, you need to read between the lines. HESS is known to take just about anybody; however, a very young, non-white American with an AA degree and CELTA isn't likely to even make their list.
As was suggested, stay in school and get your BA, preferably in English or education if you plan to teach long term. Be aware that a 4-year degree is quickly becoming the minimum requirement for work visas worldwide and by more employers. Moreover, a bachelor's degree has been devalued and is now considered equal to a high school diploma. Anyway, by the time you finish your BA and get your CELTA, you'll be older and in a much better position to qualify for entry-level TEFL jobs in more countries. |
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yb713
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| yb713 wrote: |
| teach4life wrote: |
| Just try getting a job with HESS in Taiwan. If they won't hire you, nobody in Asia will. Use that as your benchmark. |
Should I settle for part time? Will I be able to sustain myself if I recieve a position and is savings possible? Should I look on the ground or online, if on the ground , how many months should I prepare for? |
Yb713, you need to read between the lines. HESS is known to take just about anybody; however, a very young, non-white American with an AA degree and CELTA isn't likely to even make their list.
As was suggested, stay in school and get your BA, preferably in English or education if you plan to teach long term. Be aware that a 4-year degree is quickly becoming the minimum requirement for work visas worldwide and by more employers. Moreover, a bachelor's degree has been devalued and is now considered equal to a high school diploma. Anyway, by the time you finish your BA and get your CELTA, you'll be older and in a much better position to qualify for entry-level TEFL jobs in more countries. |
'presciate it. |
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teach4life
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| +1 to what nomad said. Why not just find work to pay your way through school for a few more years and get that bachelors degree? When you are 25, you'll be very, very glad you did. I say that as a guy who is 40 and very much regrets not having a Masters. |
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desert
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| If you really want to go overseas in the short term, you could consider studying abroad for a summer while completing your BA. Most universities have study abroad programs for language study although it will be much cheaper to make arrangements through a language institute on your own. Some universities even have summer programs to teach English in a foreign country for a month or two. |
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wgmarker
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| Look at ESL in the Peace Corp if you're an American. You come out with 2 years of exp. |
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