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jtea



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:04 am    Post subject: Tips on Moving to Japan Reply with quote

I accepted a job offer today teaching at an eikawa and will be moving to Ichikawa/Chiba in 2 months. Can anyone offer any tips? I don't really need packing/what to bring tips or anything like that. I'm looking for more of what to expect, what to prepare for, life in japan for the first month, etc.

I also have to find my own apartment so if anyone can offer advice on that, it would be great. Websites online unfortunately offer very limited data and images. Does anyone have experience renting from overseas?
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nightsintodreams



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the name of the company that owns your apartment?

Search youtube for the apartment company you'll be using. Plenty of apartment tour videos on there.
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rtm



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Tips on Moving to Japan Reply with quote

jtea wrote:
Can anyone offer any tips? I don't really need packing/what to bring tips or anything like that. I'm looking for more of what to expect, what to prepare for, life in japan for the first month, etc.

This reminds me of when I go home to visit, and family and friends ask me "So, what is Japan like?".

It's hard to answer your questions because they are too broad and vague. What to expect in terms of what? Your students? Your classes? Meeting people? Grocery shopping? Internet speeds? If you tell us more specifically what you want to know about, you'll get better answers.

nightsintodreams wrote:
What's the name of the company that owns your apartment?

I might have missed something, but the OP said "I also have to find my own apartment", leading me to believe that s/he doesn't already have an apartment.

To the OP, how good is your Japanese reading ability? If it's decent, just search sites like ApaManShop.com.
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RM1983



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: Tips on Moving to Japan Reply with quote

jtea wrote:
I accepted a job offer today teaching at an eikawa and will be moving to Ichikawa/Chiba in 2 months. Can anyone offer any tips? I don't really need packing/what to bring tips or anything like that. I'm looking for more of what to expect, what to prepare for, life in japan for the first month, etc.

I also have to find my own apartment so if anyone can offer advice on that, it would be great. Websites online unfortunately offer very limited data and images. Does anyone have experience renting from overseas?


What eikaiwa is it? Hard to prepare you if we dont know which one it is
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Expect it to be very hard to do much at all on your own. As everything will be in kanji and you will be effectively illiterate.

Also, if possible don't let your company have all the say in choosing your apt. A lot of places will squeeze you into a dumpy place for more than it should be, and they get a kickback imho.

Also, get "city gas" and not propane as your heat source, propane is about 5-6 times the cost of propane.

Ichikawa is near Tokyo, but is a commuter town, cheap and decent apts are available, I live near by. Don't let them give you Tokyo prices
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rtm



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rxk22 wrote:
Expect it to be very hard to do much at all on your own. As everything will be in kanji and you will be effectively illiterate.

I'll second this. Expect that you will need help to do a lot of things, but also expect to need to be extremely flexible and deal with unfamiliar situations on your own as well. Like rxk22 says, and assuming you don't have much knowledge of Japanese, you will be illiterate. Luckily, lots of things have pictures on them in Japan, including restaurant menus, which makes things a little easier. Nevertheless, I spent my first week in Japan cooking my food in mirin thinking it was oil, and wondering why my food ended up burned and with a weird sweetness to it.
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well when I first moved in, back in 2000, there was nothing.
I had to go shopping. I bought a futon and pillow after moving in.
I think there were even no light bulbs.
I had no refrigerator, so I just went to a convenience store.
Had to buy soap, towels and other things.

By the weekend I went to a nearby electronics store.
Got the refrigerator but had to have the delivery arranged. So I needed to be with someone who could speak Japanese.

Having an air conditioner is necessary. Delvery and instalation has to be arranged.
Later I bought basic stuff like plates, glasses, pots, etc. later a toaster oven.

At first it is kind of tiring, since you have to work too.
In the evening, you think about what you need to buy next.

My neighborhood was good since nearby there was a big post office, a supermarket, drug store, laundromat, Daiso 100 yen store, etc.
It also was a quiet neighborhood, mostly.
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jtea



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rtm wrote:
It's hard to answer your questions because they are too broad and vague. What to expect in terms of what? Your students? Your classes? Meeting people? Grocery shopping? Internet speeds? If you tell us more specifically what you want to know about, you'll get better answers.


Good point. For right now, I'd like more information on starting out such as:

How easy/quick is it to set up electricity/gas/water/internet.
Getting furniture, do most places deliver? I wont' have a car.
Getting a bank account/phone

Starting up processes basically.

RM1983 wrote:
What eikaiwa is it? Hard to prepare you if we dont know which one it is


It's Berlitz Japan.

rxk22 wrote:
Expect it to be very hard to do much at all on your own. As everything will be in kanji and you will be effectively illiterate.

Also, if possible don't let your company have all the say in choosing your apt. A lot of places will squeeze you into a dumpy place for more than it should be, and they get a kickback imho.

Also, get "city gas" and not propane as your heat source, propane is about 5-6 times the cost of propane.

Ichikawa is near Tokyo, but is a commuter town, cheap and decent apts are available, I live near by. Don't let them give you Tokyo prices


They actually don't have any say on my apartment, it's completely up to me to get my own apartment. I like this in the fact that I get to choose where I want to live and what type of place I want to live in but it's hard finding apartments when the Tokyo area is so big and I've never rented in Japan before.

Also, I was wondering what most people do with the money they have saved in bank accounts from their home country. I'll be taking enough to get started in Japan and to last me until my first paycheck but is there any point to taking more money with me and converting it to yen? Or should I just leave it in my savings account and worry about it should I need it.
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RM1983



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came here with gf who can speak Japanese but we lived for about a year in a Fontana apartment. They are a company which deal with apartments for foreigners so we paid a bit more than standard rent but they set everything up and the flat was at least partly furnished with a fridge. I think it was a six month initial contract then rollin month to month. It was useful as we were able to take time getting a proper apartment after that.

If your apt is big enough to need furniture (ours wasnt, we just had an airbed from Don Quixote and then later on got a really small second hand sofa) then Ikea and etc delivery to your house. You pay a bit but it isnt extortion. I think you might be quite close to an ikea in Ichikawa? Might be wrong there though.

My bank is HSBC so I just brought my bank card and used that until I got paid. There is a small charge on the card but it is accepted in combinis.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rtm wrote:

I'll second this. Expect that you will need help to do a lot of things, but also expect to need to be extremely flexible and deal with unfamiliar situations on your own as well. Like rxk22 says, and assuming you don't have much knowledge of Japanese, you will be illiterate. Luckily, lots of things have pictures on them in Japan, including restaurant menus, which makes things a little easier. Nevertheless, I spent my first week in Japan cooking my food in mirin thinking it was oil, and wondering why my food ended up burned and with a weird sweetness to it.


Haha, yes. It will be very hard to open up a bank account and set up the net on your own. I was able to, but it was super hard to do on my own. A ten minute task could take an hour.

I bought a big bag of salt instead of sugar on my first trip to the grocery store.
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jtea



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RM1983 wrote:
I think you might be quite close to an ikea in Ichikawa? Might be wrong there though.


Yes, there's an IKEA in Chiba (pretty sure it's Chiba) so it's quite close. If they deliver and won't charge me ridiculous delivery fees, that'll be great.

rxk22 wrote:
Haha, yes. It will be very hard to open up a bank account and set up the net on your own. I was able to, but it was super hard to do on my own. A ten minute task could take an hour.

I bought a big bag of salt instead of sugar on my first trip to the grocery store.


Got it, taste what you buy before you use it Smile

I'm hoping Berlitz will help me set up a bank account but I won't hear back from them until later today. If not, I've heard that it can be hard for foreigners to set up bank accounts in Japan.
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, well on the apt, find a station that you kinda like. I'd go with one that has a decent amount of grocery stores. Otherwise you'll end up spending a lot of food.
Also, I like to live near my hobbies, and don't mind commuting to work.

I'd get a small 1k style apt at first, as you don't need a big one. So yu can save money this way as well.

I still have my US bank, and use it to transfer my money from Japan into securities. As I don't believe in social security. Watch out for yourself.

The internet, I have had apts that took months to get it installed, others a few days. A major toss up here.
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RM1983



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite being with my gf I actually set my bank accout up myself, just had to find a foreigner friendly one. Cant think of the name now cos I use the post office one.

If berlitz require you to have a specific one theyll help you id think.

With the apartment have you looked into any agencies that do short term rentals? Or are you looking for the full on 2 year contract deal?


The Ikea is next to the CostCo! We go there. I hate it cos we can spend a whole day shopping there but it must be gf's favourite way to spend a sunday
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jtea



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I won't leave for another 2 months but what how long in advance would you guys recommend I start finding one that i like and start the process of renting it?

RM1983 wrote:
With the apartment have you looked into any agencies that do short term rentals? Or are you looking for the full on 2 year contract deal?

The Ikea is next to the CostCo! We go there. I hate it cos we can spend a whole day shopping there but it must be gf's favourite way to spend a sunday


My contract is for one year so I guess I'm okay with a year contract, month to month would better but given how expensive moving is in Japan, I doubt I'll move.

The place I was looking at is near the Costco so I guess that's where the IKEA is. I could spend all day there too. Silly but I've always wanted to live near an IKEA.

rxk22 wrote:
Ok, well on the apt, find a station that you kinda like. I'd go with one that has a decent amount of grocery stores. Otherwise you'll end up spending a lot of food.
Also, I like to live near my hobbies, and don't mind commuting to work.

I'd get a small 1k style apt at first, as you don't need a big one. So yu can save money this way as well.

I still have my US bank, and use it to transfer my money from Japan into securities. As I don't believe in social security. Watch out for yourself.

The internet, I have had apts that took months to get it installed, others a few days. A major toss up here.


I plan on getting a 1K, I like studio type apartments. I don't really need rooms. Thanks for the bank info, I'll most likely end up doing that too.
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mitsui



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A mansion is better. Apatos can have thin walls, and when the neighbors are noisy, it is really bad.
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