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aaaronr



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:09 pm    Post subject: Textbook Recommendations Reply with quote

I teach adults from any different countries at a community college. I hate our books. They lack context and have very little explanations of grammar. They also don't give students the opportunity to learn new verbs and vocabulary.

The books are Grammar Form and Function 2 and World English 1 (speaking and listening).

The level is beginner/intermediate. The courses cover past progressive, future with going to and will, obligation modals, ability modals, future real conditional, quantity words, subject pronouns/direct object pronouns/indirect object pronouns, possessive adjectives and pronouns, comparative and superlative adjectives, and adverbs.

If you have any recommendations that meet these requirements, please let me know.

Thanks
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MuscatGary



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tricky to answer with so little information. Who are the students? Why are they studying English? The choice of book should be based on the student's needs.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to look at this scenario differently because you're not likely to find the perfect coursebook. Instead of relying on one or two sources for teaching, I suggest you focus on incorporating supplementary materials as well as learning activities to fill in the blanks and give students the chance to "learn by doing."

Some supplementary books to enhance lessons include:
    Grammar on the Go by Victoria Holder
    Zero Prep: Ready-to-go Activities for the Language Classroom by Laurel Pollard
    Games for Language Learning (Cambridge Handbooks for Language Teachers) by Andrew Wright, David Betteridge and Michael Buckby
    Grammar Practice Activities by Penny Ur
Moreover, just doing an Internet search on esl [grammar point] lesson activity will yield a variety of lessons and learning activities to use in your classroom.
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adaruby



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know your needs, but you won't go far wrong with either New English File or Cutting Edge.

The New English File series is well presented with grammar explanations at the back and, best of all, has supplementary grammar, vocab, song, and other communicative activities in the teacher's book.

Both are very European in context though.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, John... Wrong thread. Wink
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adaruby wrote:
I don't know your needs, but you won't go far wrong with either New English File or Cutting Edge.

The New English File series is well presented with grammar explanations at the back and, best of all, has supplementary grammar, vocab, song, and other communicative activities in the teacher's book.

Both are very European in context though.


Very European in context? What means this?
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
adaruby wrote:
I don't know your needs, but you won't go far wrong with either New English File or Cutting Edge.

The New English File series is well presented with grammar explanations at the back and, best of all, has supplementary grammar, vocab, song, and other communicative activities in the teacher's book.

Both are very European in context though.


Very European in context? What means this?


Eurocentric - the examples are mostly from European contexts e.g. book titles, vocabulary, sports, etc.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardly. Quite global. Just not American ESL material. There is a difference.
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Hardly. Quite global. Just not American ESL material. There is a difference.


I'm going to have to disagree, I've used New English File (the intermediate version), with Asian learners, I definitely had to pre-teach or explain a fair few concepts/references.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd have to do that with any course book. Doesn't make it eurocentric. Most of the topics in English File are quite bland and universal, by design. Food, family, money, traffic etc. Plus plenty of texts set in North or South America, or interviews with people from East Asia, as well as the UK and Europe.

What more could a body ask for?
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
You'd have to do that with any course book. Doesn't make it eurocentric. Most of the topics in English File are quite bland and universal, by design. Food, family, money, traffic etc. Plus plenty of texts set in North or South America, or interviews with people from East Asia, as well as the UK and Europe.

What more could a body ask for?


It depends. It's not a given that you'd have to explain concepts, take for example a coursebook made for Asian learners that had familiar topics specific to their context. Instead of using film titles they didn't know, use ones that are popular in their situation. Just looking at New English File Intermediate now - War Horse, none of my learners would know that, would the lesson be improved if it was about a film they did know? Arguably so.

It is, of course, living in dream land to think there would be a high quality coursebook for every context, but that's part of the fun of teaching for me - adapting materials to better suit my learners.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A particular film title is hardly a concept. Surely they have film in Asia?! The small text in the course book about this said film is fairly self-explanatory, and is supposed to be used as reading comprehension material. Replace it with any other film title - really makes no difference, except perhaps to interest levels, but even then, fairly minimally.

You are referring to the Third Edition of English File, are you? Not New English File, then.
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Shroob



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
A particular film title is hardly a concept. Surely they have film in Asia?! The small text in the course book about this said film is fairly self-explanatory, and is supposed to be used as reading comprehension material. Replace it with any other film title - really makes no difference, except perhaps to interest levels, but even then, fairly minimally.

You are referring to the Third Edition of English File, are you? Not New English File, then.


I just realised, I'm referring to 'New Total English'..not English file :S.

When I mentioned 'War Horse', it was just an example I remember. I once had to explain what a lottery was, not sure which book that was from.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough. But lotteries are hardly eurocentric.
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