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The Food Thread - Yummy Food to Go

 
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Black_Beer_Man



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Location: Yokohama

PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 6:07 am    Post subject: The Food Thread - Yummy Food to Go Reply with quote

Feeling disappointed searching for a delicious box of cookies at the supermarket today, I thought a food recommendation thread might be an interesting idea for Dave's ESL.

I couldn't find even one brand of cookies that looked delicious. Most of my past choices disappointed. Furthermore, quite often you only get around 12 cookies in a box. What gives? Are the ingredients to make cookies so expensive in Japan that they can only sell small boxes of 12?

Buying ice cream in the supermarkets is equally disappointing. There are no decent reasonably priced brands that I know of. If you want good tasting ice cream, then, you have to go with a premium brand like Hagen Daz. This situation does not make any sense when New Zealand and Australia are a short distance away and both countries are major exporters of dairy products including ice cream.

I'd like people to post any grocery product names that they especially like. Also, the names of boutiques that sell foods to take home would be good too.

I can recommend bakeries in Japan. This is one type of non Japanese food that they do well. Cozy Corner has nice shortcake and almost any bakery here produces nice bread.
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cat mother



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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: The Food Thread - Yummy Food to Go Reply with quote

Black_Beer_Man wrote:
Cozy Corner has nice shortcake and almost any bakery here produces nice bread.

Personally, I wouldn't touch the awful, chemical tasting, artificial smelling shortcake from Cozy Corner. Luckily, there is a small cake shop down the road from where I live where they make real shortcake using local ingredients and Tochiotome strawberries.
Also, I'd have to disagree about the "any bakery here produces nice bread" but maybe my definition of nice bread is slightly different.
Different to the point that I bake my own bread these days.
When I'm in Tokyo, I sometimes get baked goods from Andersen, but even there it's hit or miss. There is a bakery in Karuizawa that makes heavenly rye bread, even folks from Gunma drive there just to buy bread. Other than that, I'd rather bake my own.
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teacheratlarge



Joined: 17 Nov 2011
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

St. Germain does nice baguettes, but it's true unfortunately, some of the baked goods here are very hit or miss. I have see nice ryes and sourdoughs, but the prices for half loaves left me 'breadless'.
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tokyo Rusk. It's specialty rusk with various flavourings.
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2buckets



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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Western types of sweets are not the forte of some Eastern cultures.

In China it's the same.

You have to go as far as the middle east to get something similar to what we like, (baklava).
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Black_Beer_Man



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2buckets wrote:
Western types of sweets are not the forte of some Eastern cultures.

In China it's the same.

You have to go as far as the middle east to get something similar to what we like, (baklava).


That's how the Japanese stay thin. Sweets are in small portions and not very rich and delicious.

Contrast them with the Greeks (that you alluded to with baklava) and Indians who have sweet desserts and are often overweight. They enjoy their sweets, but at a price to their health.
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: The Food Thread - Yummy Food to Go Reply with quote

Black_Beer_Man wrote:
Are the ingredients to make cookies so expensive in Japan that they can only sell small boxes of 12?

Yes, they are. There are cultural factors too, of course, but it's a cultural response to the artificially high cost of ingredients.
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Buying ice cream in the supermarkets is equally disappointing. ... This situation does not make any sense when New Zealand and Australia are a short distance away and both countries are major exporters of dairy products including ice cream.

In Japan, the normal rules of supply and demand do not apply to basic agricultural products like wheat, butter, rice, and tobacco. The means of control vary (high import tariffs, amakudari distribution agencies, and so on), and the reasons given also vary (protecting Japanese farmers, food security, protecting our health, and so on) but it all amounts to the same thing: the consumer pays far more than he would in other countries.

By the way, Japan's sky-high import tariffs on many agricultural products (butter is about 800%) is the main stumbling block in TPP negotiations.
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timothypfox



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want share what I've found about Japanese breads. Japanese do sweet breads with white flour well, but if you want brown flour or heavy multi-grain breads - they are hard to find. I often bake my own bread because I can make bread less sweet and throw oats and nuts into it and seasoning like basil and skimp on the sugar if I use it at all. A bag of 750g of white flour should set you back about 97 yen, and a packet of yeast at about around 150 yen. Then carefully compare prices for nuts between the baking area (often very high) to nuts in the men's snack area (cheaper). Nuts that are affordable and available are almonds, cashew nuts, pumpkin seeds, and sunfower seeds. I would avoid dates because of their expensive price tag, and go for other more affordable dried fruit if you use it. Spices are fairly cheap for whatever you want to use such as basil, black pepper, or salt. A bag of oats is unfortunately about 350 yen a bag for about 180g. A whole jar of those cinnamon toast sugars - such as caramel flavor, or cinnamon flavor added to a bread mix are excellent for a slightly sweetened bread as is a little almond or vanilla essence.

Bagels? Not easily found! Will be attempting to make my own soon!
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