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Nabz1236



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:17 am    Post subject: Expat life in Madina Reply with quote

Hi guys,

I am thinking of moving to Madina and wanted some advice.

I understand that Madina is a religious place and non muslims are not allowed entry into the centre and religious areas.

Does anyone have any experiences of life in Madina? Muslims or non muslims?

I am a muslim from the UK and I am thinking of moving over their for work and will be bringing over my wife.

I am concerned with Madina being a very religious place we will be very limited in what to do there. Any advice?

I hear it has 3 shopping malls and your fast food places to eat.

Weather is meant to be good and cooler there.

Anyone know what accomodation prices will be like there? Can you get a good standard of accomodation?

Would want at least a 2/3 bedroom incase we have family visiting.

I think i kind of prefer the idea of being in Madina than Riyadh but not sure pros and cons

Any advice would be appreciated and I understand non muslim expats may not have experienced life in Madina so maybe a hard one to answer.

Thanks

Nabz
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muslim friends are very enthusiastic about Medina and I am sure that it is a nicer place to live than Riyadh. I have never visited although I have been at the airport.
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Nabz1236



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Muslim friends are very enthusiastic about Medina and I am sure that it is a nicer place to live than Riyadh. I have never visited although I have been at the airport.


Thanks Scot,

I thought the same that Riyadh too much hustle and bustle accomodation probably more expensive there.

What was the Airport like was it big? I guess its handy as if any family visit they can fly into Medina.

Thnx
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small airport but it does have international flights. I often used Saudia which used to fly Jeddah-Medina-Istanbul. I assume that the city is served by other airlines. PIA ?
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Expat life in Madina Reply with quote

Nabz1236 wrote:
I am thinking of moving to Madina and wanted some advice.

Do you have a job offer from any of the employers you've interviewed with? If not, you should wait until you do before planning where you'll live.
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Nabz1236



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Expat life in Madina Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
Nabz1236 wrote:
I am thinking of moving to Madina and wanted some advice.

Do you have a job offer from any of the employers you've interviewed with? If not, you should wait until you do before planning where you'll live.


Hi nomad,

Yes I have a job offer pending in the couple of days for Madina.

Thanks
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Muhammed Abbas Khan



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Nabaz,
The city you will be working in whilst important is nontheless a secondary consideration. It is more important to ensure that you are sponsored by and working for a reputable employer. Arguably, direct hire is best. Although in your case you have stated that this will not be possible due to your not having an MA. If you plan to be in EFL teaching for the long haul it advisable to obtain a related MA. The quality of life is very much dependent on the employer that you have with of course the city you are in coming in a close second. Working in KSA is not like working in a teaching post in the UK for a number of reasons. The obvious one is that you can not just change employer when it suits you. I have visited Medinah but never worked there. I have worked in Riyadh and I really liked Riyadh and the lifestyle there. That's more of a personal preference.
Regards,
Abbas
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Muslims where I work hate Riyadh. Riyadh does have coffee shops, shopping malls, and Thalia St., the Riyadh strip loaded with great restaurants. However since you're Muslim I think Madinah probably would be a better place. If nothing else you would be able to talk about it with your friends and of course there is the better weather. However I agree with Khan, the quality of the employer is a lot more important.
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eslteacher2014



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madinah is obviously a good place for religious reasons. So that is plus right there.

However some things to consider.

I get the impression that Madinah is an affordable place to live.
Housing is reasonable. Places near the masjid seem a little run down. However on the outskirts they have nice villas and apartments.

a good friend of mine who used to teach in Madinah but now living in riyadh told me that for a long time employers in Madinah would be very stingy in salaries because they know your trying to go there for religious reasons.

However places like taibah university pay market value salaries assuming you have the qualifications ect
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Expat life in Madina Reply with quote

Nabz1236 wrote:
Yes I have a job offer pending in the couple of days for Madina.

Thanks


Two day contract, huh? What's the pay like?

I was once sent to Medina and, as a Buddhist, could only walk 200 meters up and down the street where the hotel was, although I did find a taxi driver who took me to a place where I could watch the Arsenal match. Bonus! I was transferred a few days later when I pointed out to the entirely incompetent contractor the error of their ways. But all that did was land me in Qassim.

The airport was of the small variety and my abiding memory was two pilots having a furious argument in the snack bar, not quite coming to blows, but close to.

My current students tell me that people in Riyadh are permanently angry. No surprise there; I'd be angry if I lived in Riyadh.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Expat life in Madina Reply with quote

Nabz1236 wrote:
Hi guys,
Does anyone have any experiences of life in Madina? Muslims or non muslims?

I am a muslim from the UK and I am thinking of moving over their for work and will be bringing over my wife.

I am concerned with Madina being a very religious place we will be very limited in what to do there. Any advice?

As far as you respect and observe the Islamic rules you will be ok.
I think you will like Madinah Al-Munawarah as a city, and more importantly its people and the international Muslim population during Omrah and Hajj periods.

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Anyone know what accomodation prices will be like there? Can you get a good standard of accomodation?
Would want at least a 2/3 bedroom incase we have family visiting.


More you are away from Al-Masjid Al-Nabawi, more the housing rent is cheap.

Quote:
I think i kind of prefer the idea of being in Madina than Riyadh but not sure pros and cons

Yes. You will be in peace from all types of hasles found in Riyadh, and living expenses much cheaper in Madinah than Riyadh.

Rostom (Veteran of the Magic Kingdom)
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Expat life in Madina Reply with quote

Nabz1236 wrote:
Yes I have a job offer pending in the couple of days for Madina.

I assume you mean you don't have any idea of the actual salary on offer thus far. I asked because you have minimal qualifications, which will likely equate to a lukewarm salary and benefits. Hopefully, it will be enough for you and your wife to live off of.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Employers know that foreign Muslims are very keen to come to Medina, "The Radiant". Salary is adjusted downward accordingly.
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Nabz1236



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Expat life in Madina Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
Nabz1236 wrote:
Yes I have a job offer pending in the couple of days for Madina.

I assume you mean you don't have any idea of the actual salary on offer thus far. I asked because you have minimal qualifications, which will likely equate to a lukewarm salary and benefits. Hopefully, it will be enough for you and your wife to live off of.


Hi guys,

Would like to thank everyone for their replies appreciate the feedback.

I guess the concensus is Madina would be a better place to stay than Riyadh.

Package i have been offered is same as Riyadh $38000 Basic and 25% accomodation allowance.

So its not too bad. i just want to make sure there is a good standard of housing available in Madina even if its away from the mosque looking for something a bit modern.

Thanks
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Expat life in Madina Reply with quote

Nabz1236 wrote:
Package i have been offered is same as Riyadh $38000 Basic and 25% accomodation allowance.

So its not too bad. i just want to make sure there is a good standard of housing available in Madina even if its away from the mosque looking for something a bit modern.

That's probably fine, but keep in mind landlords usually want to see 6-month's or a year's worth of rent paid up front. Plus, if you have to furnish the place yourself, you'll need to factor in furniture, appliances, possibly kitchen cabinets, and air conditioning units.

Also, check with your employer about bringing your wife over---if that's something they'll assist you with in terms of processing.
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