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Larry Legend
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 Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:19 am Post subject: Does China check/verify credentials? |
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| I'm sure some do and some don't , but I was looking for a general consensus. I have a degree that doesn't specify any major, so I will generally say it is in Education. So I was wondering if most schools with try to verify degrees, teaching licenses, TEFL's? Thank you for the info. |
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Shroob
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Does China check/verify credentials? |
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| Larry Legend wrote: |
| I'm sure some do and some don't , but I was looking for a general consensus. I have a degree that doesn't specify any major, so I will generally say it is in Education. So I was wondering if most schools with try to verify degrees, teaching licenses, TEFL's? Thank you for the info. |
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Larry Legend
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Does China check/verify credentials? |
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| Shroob wrote: |
| Larry Legend wrote: |
| I'm sure some do and some don't , but I was looking for a general consensus. I have a degree that doesn't specify any major, so I will generally say it is in Education. So I was wondering if most schools with try to verify degrees, teaching licenses, TEFL's? Thank you for the info. |
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Witness the high calibre of teacher that China attracts, ladies and gentlemen. |
This has nothing to do with what I do in the classroom. Having an undergrad Education degree vs. another L.A. degree hardly makes a difference in quality.
Nor is it any different than anybody "tailoring" their resume to a certain job...a.k.a.: giving out a semi-false perception.
So if you have any real input to add, that would be great. |
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Banner41
Joined: 04 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Does China check/verify credentials? |
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| Larry Legend wrote: |
| I'm sure some do and some don't , but I was looking for a general consensus. I have a degree that doesn't specify any major, so I will generally say it is in Education. So I was wondering if most schools with try to verify degrees, teaching licenses, TEFL's? Thank you for the info. |
Short answer.....no |
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RWA1981
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| I think the correct answer would be randomly - when they spot something suspicious. But my crap school, without my knowledge nor consent actually printed up a TEFL Certificate with my name on it to show parents. I never took a TEFL course in my life. When I leave I plane to email all the parents after I get paid. |
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Shroob
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Does China check/verify credentials? |
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| Larry Legend wrote: |
| Shroob wrote: |
| Larry Legend wrote: |
| I'm sure some do and some don't , but I was looking for a general consensus. I have a degree that doesn't specify any major, so I will generally say it is in Education. So I was wondering if most schools with try to verify degrees, teaching licenses, TEFL's? Thank you for the info. |
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Witness the high calibre of teacher that China attracts, ladies and gentlemen. |
This has nothing to do with what I do in the classroom. Having an undergrad Education degree vs. another L.A. degree hardly makes a difference in quality.
Nor is it any different than anybody "tailoring" their resume to a certain job...a.k.a.: giving out a semi-false perception.
So if you have any real input to add, that would be great. |
But lying about your qualifications is OK? You say 'semi-false perception', I call it lying. |
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Voyeur
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I think actually saying your major is in something it isn't, particularly saying it is in education when looking for teaching jobs, crosses a line. I agree that the line can be fuzzy sometimes, but I'm pretty sure this is over it.
In particular, if you have a degree in education won't most people expect that you also have a teaching certification? Do you get asked why you have a B.Ed but never got certified to teach? |
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Larry Legend
Joined: 12 May 2014
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Does China check/verify credentials? |
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| Shroob wrote: |
| Larry Legend wrote: |
| Shroob wrote: |
| Larry Legend wrote: |
| I'm sure some do and some don't , but I was looking for a general consensus. I have a degree that doesn't specify any major, so I will generally say it is in Education. So I was wondering if most schools with try to verify degrees, teaching licenses, TEFL's? Thank you for the info. |
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Witness the high calibre of teacher that China attracts, ladies and gentlemen. |
This has nothing to do with what I do in the classroom. Having an undergrad Education degree vs. another L.A. degree hardly makes a difference in quality.
Nor is it any different than anybody "tailoring" their resume to a certain job...a.k.a.: giving out a semi-false perception.
So if you have any real input to add, that would be great. |
But lying about your qualifications is OK? You say 'semi-false perception', I call it lying. |
If it makes you feel any better, probably close to 75 percent of my undergrad was the same courses Education majors take. |
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Larry Legend
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| Voyeur wrote: |
I think actually saying your major is in something it isn't, particularly saying it is in education when looking for teaching jobs, crosses a line. I agree that the line can be fuzzy sometimes, but I'm pretty sure this is over it.
In particular, if you have a degree in education won't most people expect that you also have a teaching certification? Do you get asked why you have a B.Ed but never got certified to teach? |
I have not been asked this before, although I'm only in year 2 of my China career at the moment. Maybe you're right about crossing the line, but if it saves the school from dealing with some of these other dipshit arrogant foreigners that I see, they will thank me for "lying" when I finish out the year. |
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Shroob
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Does China check/verify credentials? |
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| Larry Legend wrote: |
| Shroob wrote: |
| Larry Legend wrote: |
| Shroob wrote: |
| Larry Legend wrote: |
| I'm sure some do and some don't , but I was looking for a general consensus. I have a degree that doesn't specify any major, so I will generally say it is in Education. So I was wondering if most schools with try to verify degrees, teaching licenses, TEFL's? Thank you for the info. |
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Witness the high calibre of teacher that China attracts, ladies and gentlemen. |
This has nothing to do with what I do in the classroom. Having an undergrad Education degree vs. another L.A. degree hardly makes a difference in quality.
Nor is it any different than anybody "tailoring" their resume to a certain job...a.k.a.: giving out a semi-false perception.
So if you have any real input to add, that would be great. |
But lying about your qualifications is OK? You say 'semi-false perception', I call it lying. |
If it makes you feel any better, probably close to 75 percent of my undergrad was the same courses Education majors take. |
I just don't get why you would want to lie about your qualifications. Any employer that you feel the need to lie to isn't worth your time...if you actually have ' close to 75%' of an education degree.
You're potentially taking a job from a qualified candidate.
Just be straight up and honest. Again, if you do have a degree that's '75% education', explain that to the employer, there are plenty of jobs going in China, if your quals are true, you're the one who needs to be picky. |
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Larry Legend
Joined: 12 May 2014
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Does China check/verify credentials? |
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| Shroob wrote: |
| Larry Legend wrote: |
| Shroob wrote: |
| Larry Legend wrote: |
| Shroob wrote: |
| Larry Legend wrote: |
| I'm sure some do and some don't , but I was looking for a general consensus. I have a degree that doesn't specify any major, so I will generally say it is in Education. So I was wondering if most schools with try to verify degrees, teaching licenses, TEFL's? Thank you for the info. |
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Witness the high calibre of teacher that China attracts, ladies and gentlemen. |
This has nothing to do with what I do in the classroom. Having an undergrad Education degree vs. another L.A. degree hardly makes a difference in quality.
Nor is it any different than anybody "tailoring" their resume to a certain job...a.k.a.: giving out a semi-false perception.
So if you have any real input to add, that would be great. |
But lying about your qualifications is OK? You say 'semi-false perception', I call it lying. |
If it makes you feel any better, probably close to 75 percent of my undergrad was the same courses Education majors take. |
I just don't get why you would want to lie about your qualifications. Any employer that you feel the need to lie to isn't worth your time...if you actually have ' close to 75%' of an education degree.
You're potentially taking a job from a qualified candidate.
Just be straight up and honest. Again, if you do have a degree that's '75% education', explain that to the employer, there are plenty of jobs going in China, if your quals are true, you're the one who needs to be picky. |
Can we agree that having an undergrad Education degree as opposed to a different Liberal Arts degree is irrelevant?
To answer your question..aside from having white skin, my resume certainly doesn't stand out from anyone else's. |
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Shroob
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Does China check/verify credentials? |
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| Larry Legend wrote: |
Can we agree that having an undergrad Education degree as opposed to a different Liberal Arts degree is irrelevant?
To answer your question..aside from having white skin, my resume certainly doesn't stand out from anyone else's. |
It's not irrelevant, an BA Education is totally different to a BA History...BA Music...BA Philosophy.
The sort of jobs that require a BA Education state that for a reason, they want candidates with a BA in education.
If you have a degree, are a native speaker, 24 or older you will have no problem finding work in China. |
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Larry Legend
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:40 am Post subject: Re: Does China check/verify credentials? |
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| Shroob wrote: |
| Larry Legend wrote: |
Can we agree that having an undergrad Education degree as opposed to a different Liberal Arts degree is irrelevant?
To answer your question..aside from having white skin, my resume certainly doesn't stand out from anyone else's. |
It's not irrelevant, an BA Education is totally different to a BA History...BA Music...BA Philosophy.
The sort of jobs that require a BA Education state that for a reason, they want candidates with a BA in education.
If you have a degree, are a native speaker, 24 or older you will have no problem finding work in China. |
Well I have a job now that I enjoy so I won't be looking for work for awhile. It was more of just a basic inquiry.
And without some sort of in-classroom training, I don't think you'll learn a damn thing when it comes time to apply common sense in the classroom anyways |
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fat_chris
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:45 am Post subject: |
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What was the point of all of this here thread again?
Warm regards,
fat_chris |
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fat_chris
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2014 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| but if it saves the school from dealing with some of these other dipshit arrogant foreigners that I see |
Who dat?
Warm regards,
fat_chris |
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