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[mateacher]

this is my friends position, he makes about 300.000 a month with privates.
I recently asked him what will u do in the future! how will you be able to afford to retire or send your kid to university. He didn't really want to answer. So my question is to all the alts who are thirty married with kids, what are your plans and how do you see yourselves in 30 years down the line?

[Maitoshi]

I imagine they must be thinking about ways to increase their skill set and move up the economic ladder at some point, don't you?

I mean, how many ALTs are there in their 50s and 60s?

[rxk22]

Ouch. I make about that much, not an ALT, but a perm teacher. The thing is, making that much isn't bad if raises are on the horizon, and the company helps with pension and health insurance.


I don't want a high stress/high paying job, but I also don't want my kids to suffer because I like having a lazy bones job,

That said, the way ALT jobs pay, I don't see how they expect you to not only stay all day, but to hang out after class, and do club act ivies. I'd roll out, and tell them I am going to my second job. pay me for FT, and you get me FT.

[mateacher]

I make about 10 million yen now equivalent and can save about 30k per year, but when I lived in japan and earned about 6 million yen and had no kids I found it tough. My friend makes about 300.000 and doesn't seem to have plan apart from getting drunk every Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. In fact his salary is less than it was about 10 years ago but he now has a 1 year old child. His old bag of a wife will probably want another child soon enough, his plan is just to do more privates. Is it me or are these kind of people stupid, future blind or oblivious?

[nightsintodreams]

You found it tough on 6 million yen with no kids? Wtf were you doing? Seriously that's 500,000 a month, it's not enough to make one rich but how can a single guy get paid that much and say it's tough?

Anyway, I'm not in the situation of only earning 300,000 a month, but even though I earn more, if I ever had a family I'd expect my wife to work a bit, at least part time once the kids are at school. Why should she sit on her arse or shop all day?

[nightsintodreams]

Anyway, you sound like an absolute low life of a human being to me. Insulting your friend and calling his wife an old bag. Maybe, just maybe you're friend thinks there's more to life than being full of oneself and looking down on people with less than you. Just saying.

[mateacher]

I was trying to live a normal american middle class lifestyle. I had a nice modern apartment in kamakura overlooking the sea? I had good quality furniture! a good american kitchen. I had a nice car. I would buy food at the American buyers club and costco. I would have a few girlfriends and go to clubs in Tokyo. There were always bills coming through the post car tax, gas bills, shaken, health and city tax. It wasn't easy even on 6 million in my late twenties. I would take two, two month vacations a year which would eat up anything I had managed to save.
You don't know my friends wife, she is an old bag
Anyway I'm just saying it's not a normal lifestyle for university graduates in the thirties to be buying second hand furniture, eating cheap unhealthy food having no money or ambitions. I feel the way I lived in Japan was more normal for an American middle class university graduate.

[rxk22]

[mateacher]

that is not extravagant all apart from the vacations, if you take away the vacations I probably could have saved 1 million yen per year. but if you have children it would be impossible then if you wanted to send them to an international school you would be in debt of 2 million per year.

[rxk22]

[nightsintodreams]

He's a troll.

Look at his post history, two pages of posts where he criticises and makes sly comments about the salary of Tefl teachers in Japan.

If your 10 million job and lifestyle in Korea are so amazing, why are you so interested in Japan? And why have you been trying to get a job in Japan recently?

We're happy with our lives in Japan, you're happy with yours. Now go back to the Korean board and stop bothering us.

[mateacher]

I used to live in Japan a long time ago in my twenties.
a lot of my friends are still in japan and one was talking to me about going back to Japan but hadn't paid his city tax. Last academic year I applied to some jobs in japan so have been on this forum for a long time. Sorry my salary is something you are jealous about but it's just enough to possibly retire send my kids to university, that's the reality and I think most people in Japan or Korea earning 30 or 40 thousand a year don't actually realize. 10 million yen is not much and can barely support two children especially when you factor in future university costs it is nothing to brag about.

[fat_chris]

[nightsintodreams]

Yes, I won't lie, I wish i was earning as much as you are/claim, but that's not the reason I think you're a low life.

I think you're a low life because you insult your friend and his wife...

Brag a lot about your salary, even though it's a salary in Korea and so has no place on this board, nor do many of us care, because guess what! We're in Japan and not Korea. I think it's pretty well known these days that you can make more money in Korea, Saudi or any number of other places. Quite clearly most of us have reason beyond money for staying/being in Japan.

If your only motivation for work is money (which it clearly is, just take a look at your old posts, every one of them involves either insulting our salaries or asking questions about the salary in other countries) then Japan is not the place for you....

...But you already know that, right? You're only here to gloat at us. Get a life, if I was being paid ten million yen per year, I'd find something better to do than brag about it on a forum for teaching in a country of which i no longer live.

I'll leave you with some golden nuggets from this guy.

[rxk22]

If anything I pity you TS. Sounds like you'll never be happy with what you have