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Teaching Math/Physics in Hangzhou?? Need help!

 
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Nano



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Location: Qinhuangdao, China

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:51 pm    Post subject: Teaching Math/Physics in Hangzhou?? Need help! Reply with quote

Hey guys, so I've been applying to jobs to teach english in China but I got an offer to teach Math or Physics to 15 year olds (grade 9??). The salary is way more than I would get as an English teacher (18,000rmb + 2,000 rmb housing allowance per month) with 15-20 teaching hours.

I have my university degree in mechanical engineering but I am not sure what level these Chinese kids are on. With english, there is a lot of interaction between students so you don't have to talk as much but for math or physics I assume that I will be doing most of the talking. Not sure how stressful the job is either, I mean we are all probably way more advanced in speaking english than chinese students but I'm afraid that Chinese kids in math will be learning what I learned in 2nd year university haha. This will mean that I will have to stay on my toes and fully up to date with everything.

Hopefully someone could provide some help/experience.

Ⅰ. Basic information Date:
School Name Hangzhou No. 4 High School skyper ID for Interview  
School address NO.438 the Sixth Street of Xiasha District Apply for work visas(Y or N) Y
School Website   Organization Code 06396157-0
Contact info. George TEL:13024271523 Email:[email protected]
Ⅱ. Recruitment requirements
Gender NO-LIMITED Have Teaching qualification Certificate (Y or N) NO-LIMITED
Nationality THE US THE UK AUSTRILIA OTHER EU COMPANY Contract Period ONE YEAR
Age NO-LIMITED Language Requirements ENGLISH
Educational background ABROVE BECHOLOR DEGREE the minimum requirement of the number of year for working experience NO-LIMITED
Personal Background MATHMATIC, CHEMISTRY, PHYSICS Recommendation Letter (Y or N) N
Recruiting Numbers 3 (ONE OF EACH SUBJECT) Latest date for duty THE END OF AUGEST
Ⅲ.The teaching and treatments
Teaching Hours every week 15-20 Monthly wage and bonus 18000RMB+2000RMBHOUS ALLOWENCE
Work Days/Week 5 Accommodation NO
Working time 8 HOURS The number of days of paid annual leave SUMMER AND WINTER HOLIDAY
Students' ages and class size AROUND 15 YEARS\25 STUDENTS PER CLASS Visa category  
can spare time for part-time job NO Medical Insurance and ticket 8000 RM PER YEAR

Thanks guys!
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kev7161



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Location: Suzhou, China

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you ask them which textbook you'll be teaching from? Perhaps you can find it on Amazon and order a copy. Or maybe they could take photos of a few pages (one chapter?) and email them to you. In this way, you'd at least have an inkling of the level you are to teach.

I teach 5th grade math (among other things) and most of my students keep right up (sometimes they're even correcting me if I make an error on the board!). They also get math from a Chinese teacher 3X a week and his math is easily junior high school level or higher. One of my students the other day told me she likes my math because it's "easy and fun" but she doesn't like her Chinese math because it's "much too hard"! HA! I'm teaching from an American 5th grade math book so, ???

The pay is a good pay. That's roughly $3000 USD a month. That is gross pay though I'd imagine. But still, pretty good, esp. for a 1st year salary. It took me 9 years to achieve a level that is right around yours!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to teach subjects in China (Business, Economics, IT, Critical Thinking). I was not at all qualified for the last and still don't get it! Brush up a bit and you will be fine. A main goal of a subject like math in these prep programs is not so much as to further their math skills, but to have them doing math in English.

The two biggest stressors from these programs are in my opinion:

1. The students come from affluent families and generally lack motivation to put it mildly. Their parents most likely made their money by playing the Chinese money game the best (lying, cheating, bribing, etc). Therefore, the parents and the children believe the same when it comes to education.

2. The schools. But that is China. Corrupt teachers and headmasters taking bribes from parents, changing vacation days at the last minute, backstabbing, etc. Often the on-campus housing is a hassle but since they are giving you a stipend you don't need to worry.

Still I think they are an excellent choice in comparison to most teaching jobs in China. The salaries are much higher, lots of paid vacation time, and the workload is very manageable.

You do want to research the school itself and the organization through the Internet first. As the prep programs have proliferated, so too have the scam artists in setting them up to take advantage of students and teachers alike as is the natural progression of anything new and profitable in China.

If you don't like that school or program, you have oodles and oodles of schools that will hire you on. You could do better than 18 if you really wanted to.

Hangzhou is a great city for China though hot as hell in summer. But you won't have to be there.
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Nano



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kev7161 wrote:
Can you ask them which textbook you'll be teaching from? Perhaps you can find it on Amazon and order a copy. Or maybe they could take photos of a few pages (one chapter?) and email them to you. In this way, you'd at least have an inkling of the level you are to teach.

I teach 5th grade math (among other things) and most of my students keep right up (sometimes they're even correcting me if I make an error on the board!). They also get math from a Chinese teacher 3X a week and his math is easily junior high school level or higher. One of my students the other day told me she likes my math because it's "easy and fun" but she doesn't like her Chinese math because it's "much too hard"! HA! I'm teaching from an American 5th grade math book so, ???

The pay is a good pay. That's roughly $3000 USD a month. That is gross pay though I'd imagine. But still, pretty good, esp. for a 1st year salary. It took me 9 years to achieve a level that is right around yours!!!

Thanks for the response. I just have a question regarding the teaching style of math vs ESL. How interactive are your classes if you are teaching math? In ESL you can always have them working in groups and playing games or something, but what about Math? How do you make the class entertaining and have them learn math in english?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grade 9 is most likely pre-calculus, maybe derivative calculus. You know, the first semester of calculus.
Definitely ask which textbook you will use. You can get a copy and sort it out before you arrive. Teaching style? Explain the concept, the why. Do the examples and problems. Ask the students about the problems while you work through them. Give them in-class problems to solve. Give them lots of homework.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for the response. I just have a question regarding the teaching style of math vs ESL. How interactive are your classes if you are teaching math? In ESL you can always have them working in groups and playing games or something, but what about Math? How do you make the class entertaining and have them learn math in english?


In my school, these 5th graders have been learning English since kindergarten. I would guess your school may have a similar set up. Also, I teach them more than just math in English. They get a full range of subjects: Language Arts, Science, Geography, and more. I don't know that my math classes are "entertaining" but they are definitely more student-centered and all the kids are involved in some way throughout the lesson.

My math class is 40 minutes long. My basic format is:

1. Look over yesterday's graded assigned work and let kids try to correct their mistakes. They can ask others for help if need be. After 3 or 4 minutes of this, they can ask me questions if they still don't know.

2. Begin and model the new lesson. I put some problems on the board and we work together as a class going over them. I explain how to do them and go step-by-step over the procedure. They are to take notes and follow along in their math notebooks.

3. After this, we go into their textbooks and do several problems. Usually I have them do it on their own. I assign "bonus" problems for the early finishers. If we are doing problem solving (word problems), I often let them work in small groups as I walk around to make sure everyone is involved.

4. After "X" amount of time, we go over the answers. Usually every student is asked to answer at least one question. Often I will ask them how they got their answer (I rarely allow mental math and make the students show their work whenever possible - - the simple mechanics of math still trip up students!).

5. The last few minutes of class, the students get their assignment (usually a workbook page that exactly reflects the content of the lesson we just went over) and, if there's enough time, they can start on it.

Next day, lather, rinse repeat. As a primary level teacher, we do work with manipulatives from time to time and the kids usually enjoy when we do that. After every unit we have a review and then a test. If the student has good English and has stayed on top of things, they'll do very well on their tests. A majority of my students tend to make "A's" or "B's". My lower-level students get a different workbook with easier problems and a summary of the lesson at the top of each page. They also get a multiple choice test instead of the open response test that the others get.

You are sure to have a different scenario as you will be teaching higher English. I would say 80% of my students can follow me with ease, 10% have to really put in an effort, and the other 10% simply . . . can't.

BTW, we do go over the English math terms and we use them several times throughout the lessons as well as in future lessons. "Lowest common denominator" or "hexagonal pyramid' can be a mouthful for those learning English, but most can pronounce the terms fairly well after numerous repetitions.
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