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Timeline for getting hired for August/September start????

 
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Hermosillo



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Location: Chiang Mai, Thailand

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:17 am    Post subject: Timeline for getting hired for August/September start???? Reply with quote

I am new to getting hired to teach in China. I have some solid leads. I know how it usually worked in the States was if it was a few months before school, they wouldn't even give you a "No" or a "thanks for applying...", but, when they actually needed you, or another teacher quit, all of a sudden nothing matters except you getting there about yesterday. I come from a business background, and a lot of school administrators just aren't real business savvy; they really don't give you credit for actually having a life outside of your application with their school or school system. So when is crunch time? When do they "make their moves"? Thanks for your comments!
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Alien abductee



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you were to come to China with the Z visa in your passport ready to start work on 1 September you'd need to be applying for jobs and accept one no later than end of this month. The normal process of the school applying for the work permit and sending it to you so you can apply for the visa at a consulate takes 4-6 weeks. Could be slowed down if the school admin takes a holiday over the summer but they sometimes have another person available to deal with these things while they're on vacation. Anyone applying for a job today and hoping to start work in early September is cutting it close now but it can be done.
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Hermosillo



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alien abductee wrote:
If you were to come to China with the Z visa in your passport ready to start work on 1 September you'd need to be applying for jobs and accept one no later than end of this month. The normal process of the school applying for the work permit and sending it to you so you can apply for the visa at a consulate takes 4-6 weeks. Could be slowed down if the school admin takes a holiday over the summer but they sometimes have another person available to deal with these things while they're on vacation. Anyone applying for a job today and hoping to start work in early September is cutting it close now but it can be done.


How do you think me being American, and living in Chiang Mai, where there is a Chinese Consulate, will affect the situation? THX!
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Alien abductee



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have official residence in Thailand it won't affect you at all. As long as you get your work permit and invitation letter stating you'll be applying for a Z visa at the Chiang Mai consulate, you should be good. Still, I wouldn't wait much longer.
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msinglynx



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually depending on the city you want to go to it may be even harder because you are in Chinag Mai. Some places are not able to hire foreigners while they are in another country (and according to what schools in shenzhen told me) and there may be a limit to how many people they can hire through another country so you may have to go to Hong Kong to pick up a visa. Hiring time is NOW & you are about 3 weeks late honestly. So if you want to come,aim for 2nd or 3rd tier and start looking asap.
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alien abductee wrote:
If you were to come to China with the Z visa in your passport ready to start work on 1 September you'd need to be applying for jobs and accept one no later than end of this month.


This is generally true, and to have a pick of the better schools, the earlier one starts, the better. However, there are always schools that are short one or more teachers come September.

Unfortunately, most of the time, there's a reason why a school still needs teachers when school starts. It's usually because the school has some sort of problem or has a less-than-stellar reputation.

What Alien abductee says is good advice. I thought that I'd add this morsel of information for those who wait until the second week of August (or later) to apply for a job. There are always jobs out there, but the longer one waits to apply and be accepted, the greater the possibility exists that you'll get harnessed to a crummy one.
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Listerine



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hermosillo wrote:
Alien abductee wrote:
If you were to come to China with the Z visa in your passport ready to start work on 1 September you'd need to be applying for jobs and accept one no later than end of this month. The normal process of the school applying for the work permit and sending it to you so you can apply for the visa at a consulate takes 4-6 weeks. Could be slowed down if the school admin takes a holiday over the summer but they sometimes have another person available to deal with these things while they're on vacation. Anyone applying for a job today and hoping to start work in early September is cutting it close now but it can be done.


How do you think me being American, and living in Chiang Mai, where there is a Chinese Consulate, will affect the situation? THX!


Thailand *used to be* a breeze to apply from (at least as of a couple of years ago), and Chiang Mai was even more lax than Bangkok. Started to hear grumblings about non-residents being refused around 18 months ago. They might have slackened up again, but for a while it seemed to be tough. For what it's worth the invitation letter will just specify "Thailand" meaning you could collect from either BKK or CM....think there is a third one too down in Hat Yai or somewhere.
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Hermosillo



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be interesting to see. Ever since that movie "Lost In Thailand" came out, CM has been like a pilgrimage to young Chinese. Maybe that will make the "link" between China and "The West" a little stronger.

I'm on a Long-Stay visa that isn't real easy to get, either. I'll be damned if I am going to leave that, for anything less than proper paperwork. I love to teach Math, but don't have to work. Anybody familiar with EduKeys, based in Seattle? Thanks to everyone.
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