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UK citizens who've taken the Teacher Ready course?

 
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sara_daoud05



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:13 am    Post subject: UK citizens who've taken the Teacher Ready course? Reply with quote

I've been teaching in South Korea for the past two years and would really like to take the next step and become qualified to teach internationally.

I've been counting on the Teacher Ready course as I've met so many people out here who've successfully completed it and was hoping to start it in Feb 2015. I know that it's available to non-US citizens and I've recently contacted them regarding taking the course as a UK citizen and my chances of finding a job anywhere in an international school, or in the Middle East upon completion. This is the reply:

We have such a small number of Non-US citizens that have taken or are taking our program, so we don’t really have the data or statistics you are asking for. Without a social security number you will only get the certificate of completion and would have to check with the school’s you are interested in to see if they would accept only that document. Some non-US citizens have social security numbers and those receive a Status of Eligibility along with their certificate of completion. Our director has heard of some schools accept this certificate along with the Status of Eligibilty and some do not. Again, you would have to check with the school’s you are interested in to know for sure.
You will receive a Status of Eligibility. However, without a social security number it will continue to say not eligible because without a social security number your test scores can’t be connected to you. The state department will send you a separate document with your test scores. So, in summary, if you do not have a social security number you would want to check with the schools in which you are interested and ask if a certificate of completion from TeacherReady®, your test scores, and a Status of Eligibility stating you are not eligible due to no social security number is acceptable.

I'm feeling a bit deflated and have searched for other legit online courses available for Brits, without much success. I was wondering if any British person here had taken the course, and if so had any problems finding a job? I want to continue to live abroad for atleast the nest 3-5 years. Obviously a PGCE would be ideal but Im unable to afford to move back to the UK for the 2 years (1 to take it, and another to do the NQT year) Additonally, my fiance is American and I don't think he could stay and teach in the UK for 2 years while I did this.

ANY help or advice greatly appreciated as Im at a brick wall!! Thanks in advance
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adaruby



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: UK citizens who've taken the Teacher Ready course? Reply with quote

sara_daoud05 wrote:


I'm feeling a bit deflated and have searched for other legit online courses available for Brits, without much success. I was wondering if any British person here had taken the course, and if so had any problems finding a job? I want to continue to live abroad for atleast the nest 3-5 years. Obviously a PGCE would be ideal but Im unable to afford to move back to the UK for the 2 years (1 to take it, and another to do the NQT year) Additonally, my fiance is American and I don't think he could stay and teach in the UK for 2 years while I did this.



Why don't you just do a 4 week CELTA?
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I posted on your duplicate thread in the Saudi forum, check out the forum on International Schools Review (http://www.internationalschoolsreview.com/); it's relevant to your teaching interests.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: UK citizens who've taken the Teacher Ready course? Reply with quote

adaruby wrote:
sara_daoud05 wrote:


I'm feeling a bit deflated and have searched for other legit online courses available for Brits, without much success. I was wondering if any British person here had taken the course, and if so had any problems finding a job? I want to continue to live abroad for atleast the nest 3-5 years. Obviously a PGCE would be ideal but Im unable to afford to move back to the UK for the 2 years (1 to take it, and another to do the NQT year) Additonally, my fiance is American and I don't think he could stay and teach in the UK for 2 years while I did this.



Why don't you just do a 4 week CELTA?


If OP wants to teach at an international school, I doubt a CELTA will cut it.
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adaruby



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: UK citizens who've taken the Teacher Ready course? Reply with quote

Shroob wrote:
adaruby wrote:
sara_daoud05 wrote:


I'm feeling a bit deflated and have searched for other legit online courses available for Brits, without much success. I was wondering if any British person here had taken the course, and if so had any problems finding a job? I want to continue to live abroad for atleast the nest 3-5 years. Obviously a PGCE would be ideal but Im unable to afford to move back to the UK for the 2 years (1 to take it, and another to do the NQT year) Additonally, my fiance is American and I don't think he could stay and teach in the UK for 2 years while I did this.



Why don't you just do a 4 week CELTA?


If OP wants to teach at an international school, I doubt a CELTA will cut it.


She says she wants to teach "internationally" and has been working in Korea, which along with Thailand is an EFL hole, so I'd imagine she's been winging it and a CELTA would see her right.
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golsa



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: UK citizens who've taken the Teacher Ready course? Reply with quote

sara_daoud05 wrote:
Obviously a PGCE would be ideal but Im unable to afford to move back to the UK for the 2 years (1 to take it, and another to do the NQT year)


You can get an online PGCE from Nottingham and some other UK university for a few thousand pounds. You wouldn't have QTS, but PGCE alone might be enough to get a decent position at a non-top tier international school.
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MuscatGary



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: UK citizens who've taken the Teacher Ready course? Reply with quote

golsa wrote:
sara_daoud05 wrote:
Obviously a PGCE would be ideal but Im unable to afford to move back to the UK for the 2 years (1 to take it, and another to do the NQT year)


You can get an online PGCE from Nottingham and some other UK university for a few thousand pounds. You wouldn't have QTS, but PGCE alone might be enough to get a decent position at a non-top tier international school.


Except in countries where online courses are not recognized for visa issuance.
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golsa



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True enough, but given that the OP was considering TeacherReady, I doubt that is a concern for her. It's also done online.
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MuscatGary



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

golsa wrote:
True enough, but given that the OP was considering TeacherReady, I doubt that is a concern for her. It's also done online.


In that case both should be of concern as she mentions the ME as a place of possible future employment. Online is not viewed well in the ME.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Given that the OP was considering TeacherReady, I doubt that is a concern for her. It's also done online.

I'm with MuscatGary on this one. It should be a concern for her. Apparently, she hasn't done any research on visa requirements for her target regions/countries; she would have found that credentials with online components will greatly hinder where she can work.
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kpjf



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: UK citizens who've taken the Teacher Ready course? Reply with quote

Sara, you do realise that in the UK there are bursaries available for certain subjects to do a PGCE. Depending on the subject and your degree classification you could not only do the PGCE for free but also cover your living expenses. But, competition is tough, especially for the good unis. I speak from first-hand experience. However, you mention your boyfriend, so maybe even with the bursary you're not interested in doing it in the UK. Plus, Visas are tough to get in the UK nowadays!
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sunderland uni has PGCEs for 6000 gbp. They can be done online.
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MuscatGary



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Sunderland uni has PGCEs for 6000 gbp. They can be done online.


Doesn't give you QTS though and you couldn't teach in the UK afterwards with it. Again, being online means it will not be recognized everywhere.
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SpaceTone



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To reiterate what kpjf said, there are many funding options to do a PGCE if you did want to go down that route. I've just finished mine and the funding was more than enough to cover all course and living costs. So if you're willing to return to the UK for a year, it's probably your best option.
Although far from an expert, I believe that the PGCE itself is enough to get into, and visas for, many international schools/countries.
But if you do need NQT induction too, there are a growing number of international schools which offer this so in theory you could still get full QTS with only spending 1 year in the UK.
Whether it's right to accept funding then disappear is a different issue though...
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MsRT



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The iPGCE or PGCE (overseas) doesn't lead to QTS as others have mentioned, but you could apply for QTS if you decide to come back to the UK through the Assessment Only route which could take a few months to complete.

Another way to get UK-recognised qualifications could be to do the DTLLS (recently known as DET) online and then apply for the QTLS (which is regarded the same as QTS) through the Institute for Learning I believe.

Online/distance learning courses may be frowned upon in ME but you won't be at any loss as you'll be qualified (near qualified) in the UK and overseas which opens up your options.


All the best!
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