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shrewdster



Joined: 04 Aug 2014
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:52 am    Post subject: Need advice Reply with quote

Hi all,

Company X has offered me an ALT position in Japan, the exact location is still unknown. My situation is that my partner currently resides in Osaka, and the company has noted my preference but can not make any guarantees. Obviously, it would be ideal if I was based in Osaka with my partner.

I need some advice on my situation. Should I accept the job and take the gamble on where I would located? Or should I apply for a 6 month working holiday visa, move to Osaka and hope to find a job there that will sponsor me? I'm looking at moving there after the New Year. Since school starts in April, I'll assume there will be a lot of ALT jobs on offer then. If I'm unsuccessful in finding a job in the first 6 months I can always apply for a further 6 month extension on my working holiday visa.

Company X is one of the bigger companies in Japan so I'm assuming if I decline the offer I will not be considered for any of their future roles.

Thanks!
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fluffyhamster



Joined: 13 Mar 2005
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Location: UK > China > Japan > UK again

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be more inclined to accept a definite offer of work wherever than be having to hunt for part-time income right off the bat (albeit where you want to be located). If the position with company X turns out to be awful or too far you can always save up, work your notice and relocate easily enough.

I'm assuming by the way that the X position will also be starting next spring. If however it starts this autumn and is a year's contract, working that won't exactly be doing you favours the following year (autumn is slower for hiring than spring), but it would obviously get you to Japan and again be money in the bank sooner rather than later.

One last thing: no ALT dispatcher is that "well-regarded" LOL, though some may it is true have a larger market share than others, and thus be able to offer more work and renew contracts etc.

By the way, Kansai seems to have a bit of a reputation for jobs being thinner on the ground than elsewhere (Kanto, "for example"), have you found this to be the case when looking at ads for there?
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Big_H



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You aren't painting the full picture here, how qualified are you? or how desperate would you be for a job offer? Answering those questions -possibly to yourself- would help you better decide whether you can easily find a position on a working holiday visa at the peak of the hiring season or risk your placement with your current company.
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Rooster.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always move to Osaka and work with one of the less desirable schools and switch to a better one once there. Also, why not have your partner move with you?

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shrewdster



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies!

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I'd be more inclined to accept a definite offer of work wherever than be having to hunt for part-time income right off the bat (albeit where you want to be located). If the position with company X turns out to be awful or too far you can always save up, work your notice and relocate easily enough.

I'm financially stable so I'm able to survive a significant amount of time with no income. I obviously prefer to have a job so I don't have to eat into my savings. My main concern is related to securing at least a one year visa.

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One last thing: no ALT dispatcher is that "well-regarded" LOL, though some may it is true have a larger market share than others, and thus be able to offer more work and renew contracts etc.

Haha that's why I had to edit it

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You aren't painting the full picture here, how qualified are you? or how desperate would you be for a job offer? Answering those questions -possibly to yourself- would help you better decide whether you can easily find a position on a working holiday visa at the peak of the hiring season or risk your placement with your current company.

Sorry! I have no teaching experience but I do have a Bachelor degree. I do have over 10 years work experience and have owned my own business. I'm financially stable. I hope this helps.

Has anyone heard of of an Australian having their working holiday visa extension request denied or do these usually get approved without any issues?

I went to Japan early this year and I'm going again in a few months for 3 weeks. I'll send a couple of resumes out before I leave and try arrange an interview for when I'm there. I enjoyed being in Japan and my partner is there too... so I'm killing two birds with one stone.

Thanks again, much appreciated!
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rtm



Joined: 13 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shrewdster wrote:

Sorry! I have no teaching experience but I do have a Bachelor degree. I do have over 10 years work experience and have owned my own business. I'm financially stable. I hope this helps.
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I went to Japan early this year and I'm going again in a few months for 3 weeks. I'll send a couple of resumes out before I leave and try arrange an interview for when I'm there. I enjoyed being in Japan and my partner is there too... so I'm killing two birds with one stone.

It sounds like your main motivation for moving to Japan is not to teach, but rather to be close to your partner (there's nothing wrong with that, of course). If you were to be placed somewhere else, would you take the job?

Do you know the company's history on being able to place people where they want? When will the company tell you where they can place you? One option would be to go through the process with the company until you get word of your placement, and if you don't like it, pull out at that point. Then, you could go with your Plan B of getting a working holiday, going to Osaka, and seeing what you can scrounge up.
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shrewdster



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure, I'll have to speak to my partner. She has already been searching for a new place to rent.

I've been applying for work overseas ranging from Singapore to HK to China. Having been to Japan has really changed my mind. My partner has been there for 2 years and being apart hasn't been an issue but I'd prefer to be together now.

Company X said they'll be able to tell me as soon as I send them my hard copy documents, which I'll be sending off next week, given my references check out.

I asked about transfers and they said it will be highly unlikely. I can PM you the company name if you like?
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rtm



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shrewdster wrote:
Company X said they'll be able to tell me as soon as I send them my hard copy documents, which I'll be sending off next week, given my references check out.

I asked about transfers and they said it will be highly unlikely. I can PM you the company name if you like?

You can PM me, but: 1) I may not be able to give much input as I've never worked for an ALT dispatcher -- most of what I know about them comes from what people post here, and 2) I think you need at least 5 or 6 posts in order to PM.
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RM1983



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it depends how much you wanna be with your partner.

I came here specifically looking to live together and was firm about it, especially since we decided to rent a place together.

I then had to firmly turn down offers that moved me away from Tokyo and missed a few positions because of it. I came on a workin holiday visa. And yes it did eat my savings but I recovered fairly quickly.

Id do the same now to be honest. I had no intention of living in a company flat because I wanted to be independent. Now Im not tied into anything with my company and they cant penalise me if I leave, which is good. I live right where I want and the commute is 40 mins each way which isnt too bad.

Having said that, living alone would have had advantages such as making it more easy to form a social circle and learn Japanese.

If I were you, Id be firm about living in osaka but say I am willing to commute like an hour or so.

Also, remember that most flats here are under a 2 year contract, so once your partner finds somewhere if you change your job or area she might struggle to move out.
If you go and live in the company flat then it's easier (I think) to leave than with a regular contract but still it is pressure to stay with the company if it oes sour. You wont be able to transfer until new school year and even then the ALT company in your area might not let you.
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shrewdster



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks heaps RM1983. You've just given me some confidence!

Was your working visa a 6 month or a year one? Being Australian, I can only apply for 6 months then request a further 6 month extension. Do you know if these extensions usually get approved?
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RM1983



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shrewdster wrote:
Thanks heaps RM1983. You've just given me some confidence!

Was your working visa a 6 month or a year one? Being Australian, I can only apply for 6 months then request a further 6 month extension. Do you know if these extensions usually get approved?


Dont know about that cos mine was a year (British). I got it changed almost as soon as I got employment though.

Try asking on here

http://www.adventurerob.com/2010/10/how-to-get-japan-working-holiday-visa/
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shrewdster



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found another Australian's blog who said he had his WHV extended twice, total of 18 months! Sounds promising.

I've got all my paper work ready but can't apply yet cause I'm going over to Japan in October.

Oh, does anyone know if I need to purchase my ticket prior to applying? Last time I called I only asked if I could purchase a single and they said that was fine as long as I can show that I can finance a return ticket. I thought I would ask before I call the embassy again since I was on hold for 20 minutes last time!
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RM1983



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shrewdster wrote:
I found another Australian's blog who said he had his WHV extended twice, total of 18 months! Sounds promising.

I've got all my paper work ready but can't apply yet cause I'm going over to Japan in October.

Oh, does anyone know if I need to purchase my ticket prior to applying? Last time I called I only asked if I could purchase a single and they said that was fine as long as I can show that I can finance a return ticket. I thought I would ask before I call the embassy again since I was on hold for 20 minutes last time!


I definitely waited until I had my visa before I got the ticket! The WHV is valid for a year from when it is in your passport, meaning you can wait a year before you actually activate it.

Like I said though if you do work full time then you will probably change to a Humanities or Instructor visa. One thing to research is the tax you pay on WHV, I had a bunch of interviews when I arrived and they all said tax was 20% if you have that visa - considerably higher than normal. I got mine changed though and have since heard different about it
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shrewdster



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll keep that in mind. I hopefully we get sponsored!
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