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Sourigaijin



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:55 pm    Post subject: Please advise a China Newbie Reply with quote

Hello, everyone. First, I want to apologize if these questions have already been asked and answered before.

I have finally received my Z visa and am looking into flight tickets. Am I allowed to fly into China on a one-way ticket with a Z visa, or do I have to get a round-trip ticket?

I will be living in Dalian. I will be responsible for finding my own apartment, but the school will provide assistance. I figure the best thing is to stay in a hotel for a week or so while I look for a place.

I have a couple of questions about apartments in China:
1. Do they normally come with anything inside them, such as a refrigerator in the kitchen? Or is it just an empty box?
2. In general, are furnished apartments available that aren't exorbitantly expensive?
3. What about second-hand shops that sell used furniture and other items? Are those common in China? In Japan, I could often find really nice stuff for dirt cheap at second-hand shops.

I am a bit nervous about China. I have read so much negativity and am wondering if China is really like people say. There is also a lot of negativity written about Korea, but I had a wonderful 2 years there, so I am hoping that China will turn out the same way. Indeed, I am expecting to have a wonderful, positive experience (at least until reality smacks me in the face Very Happy)

Thanks in advance for any advice, suggestions, and comments.
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

China won't have any problem with you arriving on a z-visa and with a one-way ticket. Your airline may, but I have made the flight many times without showing a return ticket to anyone at any point in the trip.

New apartments for sale are bare to the walls. You should be able to find furnished rentals. I'm sure that your help will involve some sort of agency. Here's an expat online mag with a few apartments in Dalian: http://www.dalianxpat.org/index.php/classifieds . Note that the ads are in English which may drive up the price a bit, but at least it gives you some idea. There are probably more expat mags to be found and some of the posters here are in Dalian or were recently. I lived there about 10 years ago. It's a nice city for the most part.

I'm not sure about second hand shops in China. I don't recall seeing them, at least not in shop form. The thought of it doesn't appeal to me, and I've bought second hand in the States.

With my limited experience with Japan and Korea, never having been to those countries, it seems that the Chinese are less formal, less hierarchical. I'm not bestest friends with every Chinese person I've met, but I've met enough good ones to have many fond memories of the place. (I left as of this summer but will probably return some day in the not too distant future.) Good luck and enjoy Dalian!
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Alien abductee



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: Please advise a China Newbie Reply with quote

Sourigaijin wrote:
I have finally received my Z visa and am looking into flight tickets. Am I allowed to fly into China on a one-way ticket with a Z visa, or do I have to get a round-trip ticket?

Like the other poster pointed out, the point of departure is where you might have a problem. When you're checking in, if the airline demands you show proof of onward travel you need to have a. return ticket, b. proof of onward travel, usually in the form of a cheap ticket from China to anywhere else, or c. credit card as evidence that you could buy a ticket in case you need to. Check with your airline in advance and anticipate any one of the three, but with the Z visa you should be ok.

Sourigaijin wrote:
I am a bit nervous about China. I have read so much negativity and am wondering if China is really like people say. There is also a lot of negativity written about Korea, but I had a wonderful 2 years there, so I am hoping that China will turn out the same way.

Don't believe all the negativity. You can have a great time here. General rules to enjoying China (these apply to anywhere really): 1. find a decent job. 2. accept that there's some stuff here you won't like. 3. don't be an alcoholic hermit. 4. get out and enjoy what this country has to offer. 5. avoid toxic foreign personalities that can only serve to drag you down with them. 6. keep in mind that even though your first job may turn out to be less than you expected, the next one will probably be much better. I think many of us had a less than brilliant first year experience here but if you persevere things get a lot better.
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teenoso



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What about second-hand shops that sell used furniture and other items? Are those common in China?


Yoe can find shops selling second-hand white goods (fridges etc) , but usually the stuff looks beaten to hell. I haven't seen any shops selling second -hand furniture, and there are no thrift/charity shops for pots and pans etc.
New kitchen equipment (like rice cookers, electric hot-plates) are cheap enough here , and outdoor /veg markets often have stalls selling pans, woks etc..

I would certainly push any landlord to furnish the flat with basics like a bed , sofa, chairs.
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jm21



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There should be second hand furniture shops. Most apartments should be at least partially furnished. What, if any, furniture you need depends on you usually. For example, there will probably not be a western style dining table, which a few teachers here insist on having. Some apartments in qingdao don't have refrigerators but maybe that's different in dalian. It also seems hard to find a 1 bedroom or studio apartment where i am but that may be different too.

Edit: there's a nice second hand furniture shop near my school but apparently ymmv.
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Bud Powell



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I allowed to fly into China on a one-way ticket with a Z visa, or do I have to get a round-trip ticket?

No, you won't be required to buy a round trip ticket. Since the Z visa is a work visa, there is the possibility that you will renew and stay in China for another year. I've NEVER been questioned upon departure from the U.S..

Re: your apartment, in all likelihood, your school will "help you find" a furnished rental apartment made available by a favored owner unless you request an unfurnished one. (Don't unless you intend to be in China for the Long, long haul in that city. Even then, you're better off finding out about your school and your city before making a commitment to furnishing an apartment yourself.
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Sourigaijin



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your input guys. I really appreciate it.
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