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MrWright



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:12 pm    Post subject: visa from abroad Reply with quote

I've asked a similar question before, but am still unclear. I am currently in Thailand. Can I apply to a job in China, get all the paperwork done and a visa from here? Or do I have to do that from home, this case USA? Thank you.
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are talking about the position in Beijing you will need to go home or have an agent do it. You will also need the CBC done by someone. This is easier than it was for Beijing luckily. I had read around of a couple people trying the remote route for Beijing who had been turned down as they did not do the pre medical at home too. But with recent changes a pre med is no longer necessary, though I bet many schools and recruiters do not know this yet.

Please don't let anybody tell you otherwise.

A lot really depends on where in China you will be teaching.
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MrWright



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So a job outside Beijing would be easier? I wouldn't need to go home first?
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe. Beijing is amongst the hardest. Tell us the locale and we can try to advise.
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Voyeur



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came here directly from Europe last year. I could only take jobs in some provinces as others were adamant about having to get the visa from your home country. I took a job in Fuzhou because this province lets you do the Hong Kong thing.
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kungfuman



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Wright - there is no easy answer for you as the same visa process is actually different for everyone.

Me and you could apply for the same exact job in the same exact city and have the same exact qualifications but get a different response when applying for the same type of visa.

So if you think you want a China job then you need to proceed and "roll the dice" and see what happens.

No one can tell you what will happen because the way it works in China varies on wind speed and direction and the unknown - relationship factor.

So choose a job and ask the school or recruiter for the best response.
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Listerine



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kungfuman wrote:
Mr Wright - there is no easy answer for you as the same visa process is actually different for everyone.

Me and you could apply for the same exact job in the same exact city and have the same exact qualifications but get a different response when applying for the same type of visa.

So if you think you want a China job then you need to proceed and "roll the dice" and see what happens.

No one can tell you what will happen because the way it works in China varies on wind speed and direction and the unknown - relationship factor.


Yeah basically this. Recently I changed schools and the new FAO got my residence permit pushed through in 4 days - didn't need to do a medical check. Another teacher from my former school moved here also however to a different department at the same university. His RP (applied for the next day) took almost 4 weeks and he was required to do another medical.
Identical circumstances bar the destination department - but the process was near polar opposite.

The embassies are the same...often the smoothness of the application can depend simply upon the consistency of the serving officer's 5 minute previous wet fart....Bangkok for example has something like 9 windows open. If you can take a couple of tickets on arrival and if the first number called is going to see you directed to the menstrual old witch at counter 5 perhaps toss the number in the trash and wait to be called by the kind looking fella at counter 7.

I did what you want to do 3 years or so ago, Mr Wright and it was a straightforward process. Circa 2014 no one can give you a clear answer certainly not without knowing your current visa status, the province you are applying for, your nationality etc. Different rules all 'round and they change seemingly (sometimes for the better, usually for the worse) from week to week.
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jimpellow



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going against the herd yet again. Albeit one never knows what will happen for sure in China as is pointed out above, there are indeed policies in China and one is advised to try to follow them for a more realistic chance for success. It is not Somalia. As stated above, Beijing is now an overall difficult place to obtain a z-visa, especially if you are in a third country. If not returning to your home country is of higher priority than taking the discussed position in Beijing, you should focus on other cities and areas of China with less stringent requirements and try to find a suitable position in one of them. As positions abound, that should not be difficult. The expat boards for particular cities are the best resource in my opinion to get informed information as to what is currently required to get a Z-visa in that jurisdiction. You can "roll the dice" on Beijing, but they are loaded against you and it will be your time, money and effort squandered. Off the top of my head Beijing, Tianjin, Qingdao, most of Jiangsu, Wuhan and Shenzhen are some of the current difficult places for a z-visa.
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