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wangdaning · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154

Why is this not a big issue? The vote is coming and with the crap the English (or pretenders) have been slinging it looks likely. Will be interesting either way.

johnslat · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:24 pm Post subject:

Well, if the bookies are right

"That betting markets are reflecting recent polls is particularly interesting. As economist Justin Wolfers explained in a recent New York Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/09/upshot/betting-markets-not-budging-over-poll-on-scottish-independence.html?_r=1&abt=0002&abg=1

Sept. 12th: Political prediction markets, in which people bet on the likely outcome, are all about evaluating and quantifying the full range of risks. And currently, bettors aren’t buying into the pro-independence hype ... Prediction markets may not get it right every time, but they get it wrong less often [than polls].

It looks as if the Scottish referendum will provide another strong test of Wolfers' contention."

Regards,
John

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/scottish-independence/referendum-outcome

Capt Lugwash · Joined: 14 Aug 2014 Posts: 346

Do you mean why isn't it a big issue on this forum Wang? If so, why should it be?

If you mean in Scotland to the Scottish people then it most certainly is and is pitting friend against friend, brother against brother and so on.

The Pretenders (to what exactly do you think they pretend?) are mostly probably watching with interest and a little concern but with no vote on the issue there is nothing they can do anyway.

Sashadroogie · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:57 pm Post subject:

Brother pitted against brother, eh? Partition seems likely then. It is the tried and trusted way to defuse internecine violence. Ireland, Palestine, India. All rip-roaring successes. Perhaps Scotland too?

Capt Lugwash · Joined: 14 Aug 2014 Posts: 346

Well part of me wants it to happen but purely to observe from afar the resultant car crash.

Sashadroogie · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:16 pm Post subject:

Which part do you think will be a car crash? Independence or partition?

Capt Lugwash · Joined: 14 Aug 2014 Posts: 346

As they have always been a country in their own right I fail to see how they could have partition?

buravirgil · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:22 pm Post subject:

Today’s secessionism has everything to do with majority intolerance (or at least insensitivity) to minority needs. Margaret Thatcher is widely held to be the unwitting architect of the Scottish independence movement, just as Franco’s chauvinistic tyranny inspired Catalonian nationalism.

--Ross Perlin, Dissent

Capt Lugwash · Joined: 14 Aug 2014 Posts: 346

Piffle. There has always been an undercurrent.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

The Independence Movement has been around for a long time. The current SNP was founded in the 1930s. In the 19th Century there was "The League For The Vindication of Scottish Rights". Thatcher and her policies merely speeded up the process.

Capt Lugwash · Joined: 14 Aug 2014 Posts: 346

I reckon the biggest impetus was giving them their own parliament. Gave them a taste of what might be and Salmond is trying to flog them a contract they should sign without knowing fully what it entails.

Capt Lugwash · Joined: 14 Aug 2014 Posts: 346

Are you Scottish?

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

To whom is that question addressed ? I take it from this and other posts that you suffer from the misconception spread by the metropolitan media that the move to autonomy is a sinister plot created by one man.

A bit of wider reading might be an idea for you, laddie.

Capt Lugwash · Joined: 14 Aug 2014 Posts: 346

Well your post was the last before mine, so you are today's lucky winner!

Sashadroogie · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:11 pm Post subject: