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Black_Beer_Man
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Maitoshi
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Strange indeed! I have been operating on the erroneous notion that eggs sold in Japan have been pasteurized. Now I find that I must have been mistaken, as my recent Internet searches come up empty.
As a child, I was taught that undercooked or raw meat is dangerous. My mother still insists that it is and won't go near sashimi. If she eats steak, it is cooked through and needs a bottle of catsup to be palatable. So many people regularly consume raw fish in Japan that I never really worried about it. Can't eat steak that's cooked much past medium, either. That is, unless a bottle of catsup is handy.
Now I'm going to probably start worrying about the eggs a bit, though. Had undercooked chicken at a fast-food Chinese joint in America once. It made Noro-virus look like a walk in the park by comparison.
Thanks for the extra bit of worry, mate! The missus is quite fond of making sukiyaki and TKG.  |
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Anostiana
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Wow I did not know this.
I've been trying to gather as much info about living in Japan as possible before I move next month, but I have to say that this is quite the shock. Especially because I love eggs!
Is this the case in every supermarket you go to, or are there any that actually do refrigerate their eggs? |
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water rat

Joined: 30 Aug 2014 Posts: 1098 Location: North Antarctica
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:44 am Post subject: |
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The article says that the Japanese do refrigerate their eggs. So if they don't even have that right... |
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Black_Beer_Man
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:29 am Post subject: |
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water rat wrote: |
The article says that the Japanese do refrigerate their eggs. So if they don't even have that right... |
Japanese supermarkets rarely have their eggs in a refrigerator. I'd say 9 times out of 10, the eggs aren't in a refrigerator.
By the way, for those interested in tastier eggs from happier chickens, cage-free (also called free run) eggs are sold in Japan too.
It's a bit tricky for the gaijin to find them because this information is usually written in kanji on the packaging. However, you can a Japanese person to tell you what these eggs are called in Japanese or do what I did; just buy different brands of pricier eggs (typically free-run eggs are around 300 yen for a half dozen) and take the empty carton to your work and ask a Japanese person if they're free run eggs. After 2 tries, I did find them.
For those that ask "Why free range?", these eggs are more likely to have less antibiotic residue than cheap factory farm eggs where the hens are given lots of antibiotics because they live in packed cages.
As with most products, you get what you pay for. Not all eggs are the same. |
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Maitoshi
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:38 am Post subject: |
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I do notice a difference in taste with the free range eggs (and chicken). They do seem to taste better, but I'm too cheap to pony up the extra, most of the time. My family seems to eat a lot of eggs (5-6/day). |
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The Fifth Column

Joined: 11 Jun 2014 Posts: 331 Location: His habitude with lexical items protrudes not unlike a damaged pollex!!!
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:42 am Post subject: Ever Wonder Why The Japanese Don't Refrigerate Eggs? |
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No...don't much care... |
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water rat

Joined: 30 Aug 2014 Posts: 1098 Location: North Antarctica
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Black_Beer_Man wrote: |
water rat wrote: |
The article says that the Japanese do refrigerate their eggs. So if they don't even have that right... |
Japanese supermarkets rarely have their eggs in a refrigerator. I'd say 9 times out of 10, the eggs aren't in a refrigerator.
By the way, for those interested in tastier eggs from happier chickens, cage-free (also called free run) eggs are sold in Japan too.
It's a bit tricky for the gaijin to find them because this information is usually written in kanji on the packaging. However, you can a Japanese person to tell you what these eggs are called in Japanese or do what I did; just buy different brands of pricier eggs (typically free-run eggs are around 300 yen for a half dozen) and take the empty carton to your work and ask a Japanese person if they're free run eggs. After 2 tries, I did find them.
For those that ask "Why free range?", these eggs are more likely to have less antibiotic residue than cheap factory farm eggs where the hens are given lots of antibiotics because they live in packed cages.
As with most products, you get what you pay for. Not all eggs are the same. |
You could have asked a Japanese person first, written it down and read which are free range at the market.
Or... you could have taken pics with your phone at the market of the various egg carton labels and showed them to a Japanese person who could tell you. |
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HLJHLJ
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I can remember, the USA is the only place I´ve seen eggs sold refrigerated. It´s not Japan that´s the odd one out here  |
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Black_Beer_Man
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Maitoshi wrote: |
I do notice a difference in taste with the free range eggs (and chicken). They do seem to taste better, but I'm too cheap to pony up the extra, most of the time. My family seems to eat a lot of eggs (5-6/day). |
You could spend a bit more on these eggs and then spend less on something else. That's what I do. |
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Black_Beer_Man
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:56 am Post subject: |
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HLJHLJ wrote: |
As far as I can remember, the USA is the only place I´ve seen eggs sold refrigerated. It´s not Japan that´s the odd one out here  |
I saw them refrigerated in Incheon, South Korea when I visited my buddy there. I went to a supermarket called Emart.
I was not surprised because after 50 years of Japanese occupation, a vicious civil war and 30 years of being ruled by dictators, South Korea is now racing to catch up to Japan and other developed countries.
With refrigerated eggs, they're probably just copying the Americans thinking that it is a sign of progress. |
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HLJHLJ
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:20 am Post subject: |
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I bought them unrefrigerated in SK (Seoul), from a supermarket and the local convenience store. I couldn't tell you the exact name of the stores though. |
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timothypfox
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Eggs can stay out of a fridge for a while. I know this from working at a muffin store. In the cramped kitchen, of course when we got wind that an inspector was coming, we would make space in the fridge for them or claim we had just received them or some excuse as to why they were out. But, they were safely out and used for cooking for most of a working day. |
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water rat

Joined: 30 Aug 2014 Posts: 1098 Location: North Antarctica
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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I suppose the next step is to have hens living their whole miserable inside refrigerated hen houses.
You know the expression, "It's a dog's life"? I have long thought "It's a chicken's life" would be far more accurate in terms of sheer bondage and exploitation.
But, hey! What are you gonna do?  |
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