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New Beijing hiring standard requires 5 years' experience

 
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maxand



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:05 pm    Post subject: New Beijing hiring standard requires 5 years' experience Reply with quote

http://shanghaiist.com/2014/09/15/new_beijing_hiring_standard_require.php

Beijing has tightened regulations for foreigners working in the city and now requires teachers to have five years of relevant experience.

The government on Sunday announced a new hiring standard extending to all foreigners seeking employment in the capital, listed as follows:

-- Aged between 18 to 60, with no criminal record.

-- Bachelor's degree or above with at least two years of relevant work experience. Teaching requires at least five years of relevant experience.

-- Have a specific name for employer and a valid passport or other valid international travel documents.

-- Hold a valid work permit, or a residence certificate for work.

However, the age limit for candidates applying for programs recruiting senior foreign experts to work in China is up to 65 years old.

According to the government, over 37,000 foreigners from the US, Japan, South Korea, Germany and Australia are working in Beijing, with 95 percent holding a bachelor degree or above. Previously, teachers were only required two years' experience in the field.

The Neil Robison case in Beijing, among others of its kind, led to a demand for more rigorous background checks and stricter hiring practices for foreign teachers seeking a visa in China.
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Guerciotti



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Beijinger says 5 years to teach "non-language subjects" and a language teacher "should" have a Chinese teaching certificate or other.

http://www.thebeijinger.com/blog/2014/09/15/hiring-standards-foreigners-get-tougher-five-years-experience-needed-teachers

I'm confused. TIC

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NiHaoDaJia



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion, this represents China's increasing development and economy. In the past, China was at a lower period of development and needed more English teachers to help students increase their verbal communication abilities. Now, China's economic, social, cultural, educational, and communications systems are becoming more advanced, and the previous standards are not sufficient. China needs high-quality guest workers to fill certain key roles. They should have appropriate education and experience, and should follow all of China's laws and regulations.
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Capt Lugwash



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The important thing is - no-one is interested in your opinion. Comprende?
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rogerwilco



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NiHaoDaJia wrote:
In my opinion, this represents China's increasing development and economy. In the past, China was at a lower period of development and needed more English teachers to help students increase their verbal communication abilities. Now, China's economic, social, cultural, educational, and communications systems are becoming more advanced, and the previous standards are not sufficient. China needs high-quality guest workers to fill certain key roles. They should have appropriate education and experience, and should follow all of China's laws and regulations.


Wow, so many "big words".
Newbies need to know that you are a Chinese person pretending to be a foreigner.
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Wo Dong



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinese teachers are not allowed to comment on this forum? We are working in THEIR country remember?
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Capt Lugwash



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't see a problem with that provided they drop the "we foreigners" bit from their propaganda.
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likwid_777



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also think it's fine that Mr/Mrs Nihaodajia has something to say here. However, I personally wouldn't go onto a forum about "foreigners" wanting to work, or already working in Australia, and tell them that our "economic, social, cultural, educational, and communications systems are becoming more advanced, and the previous standards are not sufficient", so we wouldn't consider hiring you. Ha.

At the end of the day, this forum is for anyone. That includes the online constructs of foreign teachers, the agendas of certain folk, and even perhaps the spreading of propaganda by others.
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Wo Dong



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this at thebeijinger.com and apparently the "Proposed Changes" apply to only Beijing's kindergarten foreign teachers:

"Ahem... I read every link associated with this post and still find no legal reference that mandates the following suggestion...

"However, language teachers "should have Chinese teacher certificates or international language teaching qualifications, include Teaching English as a Foreign Language (TEFL), Teaching English as a Second Language (TESL), and The Teaching Knowledge Test (TKT)." Clearly local officials believe dealing with unqualified teachers is more important than local students learning English."

While this story may benefit many advertsiers on the Beijinger, at present the below still holds true as "official" requirements of China's foreign teachers no matter what Beijing may require of their local kindergartens in the future.

http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=1783414&postcount=3"
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wo Dong wrote:
I found this at thebeijinger.com and apparently the "Proposed Changes" apply to only Beijing's kindergarten foreign teachers:

"Ahem... I read every link associated with this post and still find no legal reference that mandates the following suggestion...

"However, language teachers "should have Chinese teacher certificates or international language teaching qualifications, include Teaching English as a Foreign Language (TEFL), Teaching English as a Second Language (TESL), and The Teaching Knowledge Test (TKT)." Clearly local officials believe dealing with unqualified teachers is more important than local students learning English."

While this story may benefit many advertsiers on the Beijinger, at present the below still holds true as "official" requirements of China's foreign teachers no matter what Beijing may require of their local kindergartens in the future.

http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=1783414&postcount=3"



I read it too and I agree the Beijinger article is lacking references to official policy. It links to other news reports and to blogs unless I missed something. Of course the response above from the Beijinger comment section also failed to link to any official source, or provide via the link to "scam.com" any verifiable comment from officials. Odd, since one would think that this wouldn't be a situation where government officials would be afraid of attribution. The Beijinger should have linked to the original Chinese announcement, whether or not most of its readers could read the Chinese.
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I should have added a criticism of CRIEnglish which was the main source of the articles for both the Shanghaist and the Beijinger. I assume that is "China Radio International" and being state-owned, probably reflects the governmental position on it's articles. Why not link to the document it refers to?
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Simon in Suzhou



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, so many places in China that are preferable to Beijing. To each their own, but I can't imagine why people want to work there.
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mw182006



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guerciotti wrote:
The Beijinger says 5 years to teach "non-language subjects" and a language teacher "should" have a Chinese teaching certificate or other.

http://www.thebeijinger.com/blog/2014/09/15/hiring-standards-foreigners-get-tougher-five-years-experience-needed-teachers

I'm confused. TIC

Cool



Yeah, I read the same thing on Chinadaily yesterday...

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-09/15/content_18599015.htm
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