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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:36 am    Post subject: Japan Pension Question Reply with quote

So after our move here, I received a waiver on paying into the Japan pension scheme until June, since my current gig started in April.

The payment tickets are a bit confusing, as they require the previous month's payment by the end of the current month.

Since I have a waiver until June, does this mean I need to make a payment in June (for the month of May) or do I make my first payment in July (for the month of June).

I'm leaning toward the latter, but really don't want to call City Hall again to ask.
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody wants to enable my penchant for laziness, eh?

Guess I'll have to go ahead and give City Hall a call then.

It's good practice anyway, but my confidence in Japanese is somewhat lower over the phone.
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timothypfox



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry. I can't really give advice because the company I work for handles that. Good luck! I'm sure you'll figure it out. It just takes time with Japanese bureaucracy.
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

timothypfox wrote:
Sorry. I can't really give advice because the company I work for handles that. Good luck! I'm sure you'll figure it out. It just takes time with Japanese bureaucracy.


Yeah me too, I also have no idea. Asked my wife, and she can't give me an explanation that is under 5mins long. So sorry Razz
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries, guys. Thanks for trying, though! Before our deferment was approved, I had already made a few payments and these were recently returned to me, so I guess there's no harm in making a mistake with these things. I suppose I'm just so used to being more certain (relatively speaking, anyway) of financial matters.
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ssjup81



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for bumping and hijacking, but had a question.

So...haven't been paying into the pension and it's my fault for overlooking this, so no need to get on me for it, as I thought my company was handling it all this time. I now owe quite a bit.

I'm curious, with the pension, don't you get the money back if you leave or am I confusing it with something else?
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maitoshi wrote:
Nobody wants to enable my penchant for laziness, eh?

Guess I'll have to go ahead and give City Hall a call then.

It's good practice anyway, but my confidence in Japanese is somewhat lower over the phone.


The pension system is complicated, and even Japanese people don't full understand it.
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figured it out now, but received refunds for months I shouldn't have paid. The refund forms were probably more of a pain than a phone call would've been, though.

Yes, if you leave, you can get the previous three years worth of payments back. As I don't plan to leave, I'm paying it.
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ssjup81



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Due to health issues, I'm planning on moving home next spring, and even the doctor said Eikaiwa work is bad for my health. I'm currently being hospitalized. ^^

So I must pay up what I owe. At least I get it back when I leave. ^^
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about your health problems, but why bother paying if you will leave so soon?
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Won't it just create more work for everyone?
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait ... if you are hospitalized, are you referring to national health insurance payments? I don't think we get these back.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, the pension. I got a letter recently pointing out that I haven't paid and how much I owe. One of my coworkers picked up my mail and brought it here. I always thought the pension thing was optional anyway.
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Maitoshi



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I wouldn't bother with it if you're leaving soon.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I do wonder if this would affect me if I do ever decide to live here again.
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