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EFL4Life
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:48 am Post subject: Does Police Clearance need to be notarized in US? |
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RustyShackleford

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Every document you submit needs to be notarized. I think you can get it done in VN and they'll not care but best to err on the side of caution and get it done while still in your state. |
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EFL4Life
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Okie from Muskogee
Joined: 31 Jan 2014 Posts: 55
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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For US citizens, I think criminal check should be done at national level (FBI criminal background check) because some states don't share their information at the federal level either intentionally or unintentionally by mistake.
One can run a state criminal check in California (where one may have or may not have never lived in) and run another in New York (where one may have or may not have never lived in) criminal check and get different results. |
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calidan
Joined: 06 Aug 2014 Posts: 44
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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I guess the question is what do the Vietnamese accept? I've heard anything from local (county) police department clearance, to state clearance, to FBI clearance. I opted for doing State of California, but somebody else told me I only needed the local county sheriff report. I figured California DOJ is better, but who knows?
Anyone? Bueller? |
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RustyShackleford

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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:45 am Post subject: |
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I got mine done from my county and they were happy with it. |
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TRH
Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Posts: 340 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:54 am Post subject: |
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I have to agree with the Okie. If you are from the US, the FBI check has to be the best. I got a local check in my state when I came. It was notarized but then I had to go to the court to have the notary signature verified, then the office of the Lt. Governor (Hawaii is unique) and subsequently send it to DC for the State Dept. authentication. (Remember, no state level apostilles for Vietnam.) Each step took time even when hand carried as all the local offices demanded that I leave the document and return when called.
The FBI web page now says that since last year they no longer will send the records check directly to the State Dept so you will have to mail it to DC after receiving it. But the best thing is that it is unassailable. No local Saigon or Hanoi bureaucrat will reject it just because he never heard of your town or even state. My guess is that national records from other countries would have the same advantage over local records. The FBI is a 30 day process but if you plan ahead it may only be two weeks net longer than going the local check route. Soon after I started my local check, I started the FBI process and both were fully completed at nearly the same time.
What I would be curious to find out is: will the embassy or consulate here authenticate an FBI check or must it go to DC. Does anyone here have any first hand experience. The FBI will only mail a check to a US address. If you are here, you need a cooperative partner where you get your mail but it would be easier if they could forward it here directly instead of to DC and back first. |
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aaaronr
Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Posts: 82
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I had to turn down a job because I couldn't trust that the FBI could process it in time. Their website said 30 days to process and then mail via priority mail. Site also says they get 70,000 requests per week or month.
How long did it take for those who had FBI checks?
I want to get an idea of average turn around so I can plan ahead next time.
Also, does VN gov't want it exactly 6 months from time of departure/arrival, or can it be the same month? I'd like to have my documents in hand before I leave. It seems strange to me because I don't think you can leave the country if you have a felony charge hanging over your head (not sure about misdemeanors). |
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TRH
Joined: 27 Oct 2011 Posts: 340 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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aaaronr wrote: |
Also, does VN gov't want it exactly 6 months from time of departure/arrival, or can it be the same month? |
I think you have this a little mixed up. The check can be done any date but the Vietnamese officials require it to be less than 6 months old for use in Vietnam whether for marriage or a work permit application. So if it is dated a month before you leave, it will be good for the first five months you are here.
The biggest difference between now and past experiences of others would be the fact that they no longer will mail it directly to the Dept. of State so you have two additional mailing legs. I also saw a caveat on the FBI site that the turnaround time is presently longer than usual. These changes make it tough to estimate time. Personally, I would try to have the application in not less than 60 days before I intended to depart the US. This would give the document about a four month useful life in Vietnam. |
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aaaronr
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the reply, TRH.
So, I could get my FBI check in May and arrive in Vietnam in September and I'd be ok for 3 months to get a job? |
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TRH
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:39 am Post subject: |
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aaaronr wrote: |
So, I could get my FBI check in May and arrive in Vietnam in September and I'd be ok for 3 months to get a job? |
Although your credentials mentioned in another thread indicate you should not be unemployed for long, it's probably best to give yourself a little more cushion. If I were arriving 1 Sep, I would apply for the FBI check in late Jun to allow enough time for the check plus authentication and still allow for at least four months of useful life once you are here. Even if you think you have prearranged employment, things may work out differently as has been discussed repeatedly on this site. |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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TRH wrote: |
What I would be curious to find out is: will the embassy or consulate here authenticate an FBI check or must it go to DC. Does anyone here have any first hand experience. |
Any input about this would be very useful! |
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