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rippentaire



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:25 am    Post subject: Where to look as a fresh grad? Reply with quote

So, I'll try not bore you guys with a lot of fluff.

I'm 25, fresh out of university since this May, with a B.S. in Mathematics. Currently, I have no job experience on my "resume". I've skimmed through some discussions on teaching English elsewhere, which has left me with the impression that might present a problem in some markets.

For somebody in my boat, what's a good country to aim for? In particular, I'd like to teach older kids or adults, though I understand I can't be real choosy.

Also, I'm sure it's a much less open market, but does anybody know about teaching non-English subjects (particularly mathematics, since that's my thing) overseas?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: Where to look as a fresh grad? Reply with quote

rippentaire wrote:
Also, I'm sure it's a much less open market, but does anybody know about teaching non-English subjects (particularly mathematics, since that's my thing) overseas?

Forget about teaching English. Seriously, if you were to obtain a teaching license from your state/region/province to teach math, and then gain a couple of years of math teaching experience in your home country, you could head overseas and teach math in some of the better international schools.

Check out this article on The International Educator: "Teaching Overseas: Are you Qualified?" (http://www.tieonline.com/view_article.cfm?ArticleID=86).
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rippentaire



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Where to look as a fresh grad? Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
Seriously, if you were to obtain a teaching license from your state/region/province to teach math, and then gain a couple of years of math teaching experience in your home country, you could head overseas and teach math in some of the better international schools.


Seems like something to keep in mind, I guess.

But let's say I wanted to go teach English anyway because I need some kind of job (McDonald's has a giant pool of lifers to fill positions around here, unfortunately). Which countries would be the best to start looking at?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're not from the UK (I guess you are American, from your use of the word resume), probably Asia is the easiest. It's a big market, fairly easy to find work from abroad, and the pay is reasonable at the newbie level most places. Go to the China, Japan, or (separate) Korea forums for more info.

If you're from the UK, Europe is easy for you - but you'll need a CELTA or equivalent. Ideally, get this in the country where you want to start teaching, and probably in the summer, ready for the peak hiring period of September.

As far as teaching maths, nomadsoul is correct - unless you have a teaching qualification that makes you attractive to international schools (usually good gigs!), it's unlikely. Keep in mind that public/state schools don't usually offer maths in English - it's almost always taught in the local language.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, right, whoops. Not sure why I didn't mention that I'm an American anywhere.

Asia it is, then. I actually interviewed with an English school in Japan once but was turned down pretty quickly. Granted, it had a less-than-stellar reputation by all indications, so it's probably better I didn't get it.

Anyway, I'll go trawl those forums for more info. Cheers to the both of you for the answers.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's also TNTP, if you're interested in using your math degree (http://tntpteachingfellows.org/). Do a couple of years in the program after you're certified, and then head overseas to make more money teaching math than English.
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