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Wall Street English recruitment email (weird)

 
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mysterytrain



Joined: 23 Mar 2014
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:01 pm    Post subject: Wall Street English recruitment email (weird) Reply with quote

Just checked my inbox, found a three day old mail that says it is from Wall Street English China. Whoever wrote the email said that they were responding to my (inquiry / interest / whatever) through TEFL.COM (I do have my CV posted there for employers to see, maybe it was just because of that ... I guess it is possible I sent an email to WSE, but it would have been almost two years ago, if I did), and I have no memory of doing so.)

Anyway, the email says it is from "Carlos A. Cortes, Regional Director of Recruitment for Wall Street English".

I do not consider myself an ethnocentric person at all, but still ... can that be for real?

I mean, I guess the rubric I am applying here is something along the lines of "if it sounds too made-up to be true, it probably is".

As hard as I tried, I couldn't get a straight look on my face about this message, so I replied to it, thanking Carlos profusely for thinking of me, expressing my deep excitement about the prospect of working for WSE, and generally wishing him all the best ... in Spanish.

Was I wrong to do that?

(shrug)
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likwid_777



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try googling next time... Depending on how it is perceived, you may not get to work there in future. Don't forget about the millions upon millions of folk in the USA with very Spanish names who are native speakers of English. That being said, who says that someone needs to be a native speaker of English to be the Regional Teacher Recruiter at Wall Street English?

Embarassed

Oh yeah, I guess it could still be a scam, if it seems unusual. It would be not out of the question for someone to find a real identity to masquerade as, in fact it would be smart. I would think that in this case, especially if you have put your resume on some ESL website before, that it it's probably genuine. Oopsy daisy.
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mysterytrain



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, that "google" thing works. Looks like Carlos is legit.

Still, I never sent an email to Wall Street China expressing an interest in working for them (I've checked). I do have a CV posted at TEFL.com, but I thought it was on "inactive" status (apparently it was active).

I will send Carlos another email to apologize / explain, but I'm not particularly interested in working for WSE in China (Turkey, maybe) so if he's not big on sense of humor, I won't take it as a huge loss. WSE does have a better reputation generally than EF and some of the other big language mill chains, certainly in Indonesia and as far as I know in China too.

It did look like a suspicious / maybe fake email to me, but I agree the Hispanic name shouldn't have seemed a problem in and of itself. I have had many Latino friends in the States who speak English quite fluently indeed, and of course, he could be a British, etc, citizen as well.

I think I was thinking in the back of my mind of "Inigo Montoya" from The Princess Bride (my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die"). Surprised
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spicykimchi



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate to break this to you, but he's a real guy. He works at the headquarters of Wall Street in Lujiazui area in Shanghai. I met him in person and had an interview with him. He seemed like a nice enough guy.

If you work at an adult school like Web, which is where I work, you won't be able to do anything but teaching. If you're at Wall Street, you can go into management. So it shouldn't be surprising if you get an email from a foreigner, claiming to be a manager.
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LongShiKong



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Was I wrong to do that?


No, just extremely naive or prejudiced. What made you so sure he wasn't a native or near-native English speaker? Besides, did he not send the email from his WSE account?
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cedarstreetcowboy



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carlos Cortes is indeed real. I talked to him over Skype, and he really is a manager at Wall Street, and he speaks English with an American accent.
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asiannationmc



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Likely he failed Spanish ...twice....
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mysterytrain



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LongShiKong wrote:
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Was I wrong to do that?


No, just extremely naive or prejudiced. What made you so sure he wasn't a native or near-native English speaker? Besides, did he not send the email from his WSE account?

Nope, not prejudiced, you'll just have to take my word on that one (or not, up to you really). Maybe naive in the particular moment, or just too suspicious about the email being legit. An email from almost any company account can be faked pretty easily.

I acknowledged in my second post that I have confirmed there is a real person with that name who is a recruiting manager at WSE in China, and I concede it probably really was from him and from WSE. Still, scammers have been known to impersonate real employers and recruiters, it's a fairly well-known ruse in ESL and not really uncommon.

Anyway, I agree that the name shouldn't have been part of what put me off about the message, but no harm done. I really have no interest in working for WSE, but I do wish Carlos all the best (in any language).
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me your post looked strange (Carlos is not English but neither are half the names we use), but then WSE, ha.
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