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Nano
Joined: 10 Jun 2014 Posts: 58 Location: Qinhuangdao, China
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Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:06 pm Post subject: My School Is Trying To Make Me Work As Much As Possible |
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Hey everyone,
So now I am going through an issue with my school in Qinhuangdao. The first few months I was here, I taught around 12 hours of class a week but since December, it seems they are trying to make an effort to make sure I teach my maximum hours (25 hours) per week. I teach high school grade 2 and 3 and a few weeks ago they opened up a whole new grade 2 class for just ONE newly enrolled student in my international class instead of simply putting her in the currently existing grade 2 class which only has 13 students in it. So now I have double the teaching hours just because of that.
When one staff member had to remake my schedule to accommodate this student, my total teaching hours was like 28 or something (wtf was she thinking?) and another foreign teacher complained so they ended up reducing it to 25 hours. Now that my grade 3s are practically finished their program, this same staff member asked me yesterday if next week I will not have anymore grade 3 classes so they could add more grade 2 classes even though it is unnecessary. I told her it was absolutely not okay and she just nodded and walked out of the office.
Something weird is going on here. The director of my program seems to be trying to control everyone. Just recently he made it a requirement for the Chinese teachers/staff in his international program to check in/check out using a fingerprint scanner. Luckily foreign teacher don't have to do it but you never know. The admin staff have also been told that they have to do more work regarding helping the students so they are probably trying to have me work as much as possible (since I probably make more money than them) so that they don't have to do as much work.
Wtf is going on and what should I do? |
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Alien abductee
Joined: 08 Jun 2014 Posts: 527 Location: Kuala Lumpur
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| Nano wrote: |
| So now I am going through an issue with my school in Qinhuangdao. The first few months I was here, I taught around 12 hours of class a week but since December, it seems they are trying to make an effort to make sure I teach my maximum hours (25 hours) per week. I teach high school grade 2 and 3 and a few weeks ago they opened up a whole new grade 2 class for just ONE newly enrolled student in my international class instead of simply putting her in the currently existing grade 2 class which only has 13 students in it. So now I have double the teaching hours just because of that. |
Your employer wants you to teach the number of hours you agreed to, so where's the problem? Looks like you got off very easy the first few months and for that you should be thankful.
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| When one staff member had to remake my schedule to accommodate this student, my total teaching hours was like 28 or something (wtf was she thinking?) and another foreign teacher complained so they ended up reducing it to 25 hours. Now that my grade 3s are practically finished their program, this same staff member asked me yesterday if next week I will not have anymore grade 3 classes so they could add more grade 2 classes even though it is unnecessary. I told her it was absolutely not okay and she just nodded and walked out of the office. |
If you're asked to work overtime ensure you're paid extra for that in accordance with whatever your contract says. But if you agreed to 25 hours and your job is teaching, then take the classes your employer is scheduling and teach them. If they have students that need a teacher then it is necessary (that decision isn't your call). What are you expecting here? To go back to 12 hours a week for the same pay as 25?
I've been given a few classes over the years that I wasn't particularly keen on teaching (who hasn't?) but I got on with it and at the end of the month collected my pay.
| Nano wrote: |
| Something weird is going on here. The director of my program seems to be trying to control everyone. Just recently he made it a requirement for the Chinese teachers/staff in his international program to check in/check out using a fingerprint scanner. Luckily foreign teacher don't have to do it but you never know. The admin staff have also been told that they have to do more work regarding helping the students so they are probably trying to have me work as much as possible (since I probably make more money than them) so that they don't have to do as much work. |
Your director's job is to manage ("control") people, their workload, and the work environment. If you're unhappy with their decisions then finish your contract and open your own school where you make the decisions. I suppose the fingerprint scanner is either for security purposes and/or it functions as a kind of time card to see who's sneaking out when they shouldn't be. Unless you've got something to hide I don't see a problem here.
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| Wtf is going on and what should I do? |
What's going on is the school wants some return for the money they're giving you. Your post makes you look like someone who wants more but doesn't want to work for it. Time to uphold your end of the bargain and do your job. I notice you haven't been in China for long so I tried take it easy on you.  |
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mike w
Joined: 26 May 2004 Posts: 1071 Location: Beijing building site
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| it seems they are trying to make an effort to make sure I teach my maximum hours (25 hours) per week. |
If your contract stipulates 25 hours, then what is the problem? By your own admission you had an easier time of it for the first few months, now they want you to work as your contract stipulates. I don't see a problem. |
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Scrabble King
Joined: 25 Dec 2014 Posts: 91
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| You came to China to work right? You have a contract right? You are getting paid for the hours you work right? Honor your contract and make them do the same. The End. |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:00 am Post subject: |
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In my experience the max hours can be averaged out over the contract period.
If your max is 20 and you teach 18 in semester one your FAO or Teaching Affairs people will see 22 as acceptable in semester two.
Obviously, there is an exhaustion limit, but the theory is there.
OP probably thinks each week exists on its own and once it's over there is no effect on later weeks. |
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SearchingChina
Joined: 06 Jan 2015 Posts: 54
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:08 am Post subject: |
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I kinda get where the OP is coming from. It doesn't sound like there's a genuine need for more classes, just the director has decided the foreigner needs to work for the sake of working. I mean, doubling the class load because of 1 extra student?
Yes it's in the contract but this falls under the universal rule of 'don't be a dick'. It's a bit like if your contract says there are no office hours, you finish a class, but right when you step out the door a student asks you a question about the material that would take you 20 seconds to answer. Would it be OK for the teacher to say 'sorry, not working now, class is over'? By the contract that's your right, but... |
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davelister
Joined: 15 Jul 2013 Posts: 214
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
In my experience the max hours can be averaged out over the contract period.
If your max is 20 and you teach 18 in semester one your FAO or Teaching Affairs people will see 22 as acceptable in semester two.
Obviously, there is an exhaustion limit, but the theory is there.
OP probably thinks each week exists on its own and once it's over there is no effect on later weeks. |
Max hours means maximum hours, so exceeding that would be in violation of the contract. If the (whichever) school can't manage its scheduling to allocate max hours then it's far from OK to pass that over to the next week / month / semester.
As for the OP; I agree with others - you signed for 25 hours, so that's that. At my place of work they always make sure we teach our max hours. |
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Unchained English
Joined: 31 Dec 2014 Posts: 32
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:34 am Post subject: |
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"it seems they are trying to make an effort to make sure I teach my maximum hours (25 hours) per week"
What does 1 hour equal? 60 minutes or the average 40-50 minute class?
At best, you have about a 4-5 hour complaint of unpaid work.
"I teach high school grade 2 and 3 and a few weeks ago they opened up a whole new grade 2 class for just ONE newly enrolled student in my international class instead of simply putting her in the currently existing grade 2 class which only has 13 students in it."
I doubt the validity of this. However, if you are required to teach 25 forty to fifty minute classes a week, and you agreed to this in the contract, then why are you complaining? It doesn't matter why or how you have 25 forty to fifty minute classes. You agreed to it in the contract.
"Wtf is going on and what should I do?"
Looks like you are getting too paranoid. You complain about extra hours, but you spend the time you have off now to observe the Chinese teachers? Isn't there something better you could be doing?
Do you have a hobby or interest? Girlfriend or boyfriend? Normally, you would teach your classes, go into the office, "Hello", then leave, "Goodbye". Smile, and go home.
That's what I do. Why get caught up in all this Chinese teacher fingerprint drama? Do your schedule according to the contract, go home after your last class. Simple.
Leave the drama for the Chinese to sort out. I got paid last week and the halls were flooded. Apparently water piping burst somewhere. Got my pay, returned home, stayed in a dry apartment. I have no idea what the classrooms are like now. I am on holiday
Use your time wisely and sanely. |
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water rat

Joined: 30 Aug 2014 Posts: 1098 Location: North Antarctica
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| I agree with what every one else has said so far. Then, have you considered that soon will be the spring break? Likely you will have the whole of February off and maybe bits of January and March. If upon your return if you find you can't handle the rather light and agreed upon schedule, you have only to resign. |
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davelister
Joined: 15 Jul 2013 Posts: 214
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| As for the finger-scanning to log in & out of work; same system was introduced at my place of work, with Chinese staff only required to use it at first and later FT's too. Fines are issued for 'tardiness', |
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3701 W.119th
Joined: 26 Feb 2014 Posts: 386 Location: Central China
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Heaven forbid an employer expects you to teach 25 lessons a week.
What are they thinking? |
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litterascriptor
Joined: 17 Jan 2013 Posts: 360
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| davelister wrote: |
| As for the finger-scanning to log in & out of work; same system was introduced at my place of work, with Chinese staff only required to use it at first and later FT's too. Fines are issued for 'tardiness', |
I had that once, I pretended to be a stupid foreigner and clocked in and out 20 to 30 times morning and afternoon till they demanded I stop clocking in.
apparently I turned their records into a complete circus.
As for the OP..
If your contract says 25 hours, that means 25 hours. It is why making sure your contract clearly explains what a working hour is tends to be very important. |
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SearchingChina
Joined: 06 Jan 2015 Posts: 54
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:38 am Post subject: |
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I don't think OP's complaint is with the 25 hours a week really, it's the fact that they've added classes to make up that number for no reason except to seemingly make him miserable.
If on your first day you show up, and there's 25 classes, then no problem, it's what's in the contract. If there's 12 however, and class sizes are already small, and for no specific reason they decide to double your classes, you do have cause to complain simply because it's a total dick move.
It's like I posted above - if your contract says no office hours, should you refuse to answer a simple question from one of your students after class has finished? It's your right as per the contract, but there's some unwritten human law about not acting like an asshat, or at least there should be. |
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BleedingBlue
Joined: 22 Oct 2014 Posts: 87
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds to me that you're being a cry baby. "my maximum of 25 hours" ... you're complaining that they are trying to make you work the number required in your contract? GOD FORBID |
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Nano
Joined: 10 Jun 2014 Posts: 58 Location: Qinhuangdao, China
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| SearchingChina wrote: |
I kinda get where the OP is coming from. It doesn't sound like there's a genuine need for more classes, just the director has decided the foreigner needs to work for the sake of working. I mean, doubling the class load because of 1 extra student?
Yes it's in the contract but this falls under the universal rule of 'don't be a dick'. It's a bit like if your contract says there are no office hours, you finish a class, but right when you step out the door a student asks you a question about the material that would take you 20 seconds to answer. Would it be OK for the teacher to say 'sorry, not working now, class is over'? By the contract that's your right, but... |
This whole thing seems to be a way for the other staff to have less work.
It's not that I have to teach 25 classes, it's the fact that they make sure I teach as much as possible so that they don't have to do as much work. Recently the director told the admin staff that they have to monitor the students during independent study time. The less classes I teach, the more they need to monitor. So since this happened recently, the evidence shows that they are trying to give me as many classes as possible, so that they don't have to do any monitoring and can sit in the office with more free time.
The demand to teach this many classes is not coming from the director. It seems to be the result of the director demanding more work to be done by admin staff so the admin staff wants to throw as much work as legally possible so they don't have to do it. |
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