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European EFL to American ESL woes

 
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golsa



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:09 am    Post subject: European EFL to American ESL woes Reply with quote

I've recently started doing some ESL work in the US after several years teaching EFL abroad and have quite a few concerns about what I'm seeing in the US. I was pretty lucky in my EFL time and mostly worked with good materials, reputable organizations, and had DELTA or local master's degree qualified DOSes and ADOSes to consult when I needed help.

I'm currently teaching ESL to recent immigrants in the US and have found the books to be similar to 20 year old CEF material. As in basically like teaching from Headway (not even New Headway). The materials I'm using don't have any included controlled practice, guided discovery, and often don't even present target language in context. I have plenty of British produce supplementary material on hand for things like controlled practice and am fully capable of making my own guided discovery materials, but I have to admit that I'm a little dumbstruck that these things aren't ubiquitous in EFL/ESL materials produced in first world nations.

Another thing that has really struck me is my peers aren't able to talk about materials and teaching using nomenclature which is standard in the European market. For instance, when I first interviewed for my position with the center director I asked her if there is a particular approach or method they preferred. She said that she didn't understand my question, so I briefly mentioned CLT, audiolingualism, etc and she said that it didn't make a difference. I've also been approached by a few peers about our core materials (none of them are too fond of them) and none of them seem to be familiar things like PPP, schema theory, lexical chunks, controlled practice, and so on. These colleagues range in qualifications from someone who has an unaccredited 15 credit hour TESOL cert from the local community college to licensed teachers who hold a state ESL endorsement....

One last mini-rant. Someone I share my beginner class with told me that she doesn't think the students need to be learning word order for present simple (:shocked:) and she normally waits until they are at intermediate level (which I interpreted to be CEF B1 as our beginner book is certainly on the same level as CEF A1) to teach them. She also claimed that their final test only has things like filling out a form with things like your name, address, and labeling an envelope correctly. How on earth are these students going to be ready for an elementary or per-intermediate level class if they're not even learning things like SVO order and question forms at the beginner level?

Here is basically what I'm asking: is all American ESL this bad? This caliber of teaching is basically what I saw in China and it might have been ok if I hadn't experienced working with well qualified people, good materials, and CEF standards before experiencing what happens in China.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

golsa wrote:
Here is basically what I'm asking: is all American ESL this bad?

No, it's not all bad. I taught in a literacy program for my teaching practicum and all the instructors as well as the director had education or TESOL-related MAs + high school TESL experience. We had good materials to work with; plus, the instructors were active members of the local TESOL affiliate.

By the way, you might ask this on the N. America forum as well.
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golsa



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad soul wrote:
I taught in a literacy program for my teaching practicum


Is ESL always tied to literacy in the US market? I too am working for a literacy program and I've got the feeling that they're a little too concerned with literacy and not concerned enough about how much English the students know.

For example, one of my beginners is illiterate in her first language, but recently beat her literate classmates at a hangman vocab review game. This tells me that she has an English literacy level similar to her literate classmates and knows the vocabulary just as well as they do. She's also able to complete gap fills and transformation exercises just as well as them, but is much slower. Some of the other teachers keep bringing up the idea of teaching her to read and write in Spanish first despite the fact that the woman signed up for ESL classes and not Spanish literacy classes.

nomad soul wrote:
By the way, you might ask this on the N. America forum as well.


Thanks for the idea. Will do.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

golsa wrote:
nomad soul wrote:
I taught in a literacy program for my teaching practicum

Is ESL always tied to literacy in the US market? I too am working for a literacy program and I've got the feeling that they're a little too concerned with literacy and not concerned enough about how much English the students know.

The program I did my ESOL teaching practice in focused on ESL/literacy.

and golsa wrote:
For example, one of my beginners is illiterate in her first language, but recently beat her literate classmates at a hangman vocab review game. This tells me that she has an English literacy level similar to her literate classmates and knows the vocabulary just as well as they do. She's also able to complete gap fills and transformation exercises just as well as them, but is much slower. Some of the other teachers keep bringing up the idea of teaching her to read and write in Spanish first despite the fact that the woman signed up for ESL classes and not Spanish literacy classes.

If this student is doing fine with the material in English (albeit slowly), there's no need to clutter her cognitive load with Spanish; it could end up demotivating her.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you've been unlucky enough to get hooked up with a school where the director and the other teachers aren't well-educated about ESL/EFL.

Back a decade ago, I saw schools in Canada where it was assumed that any retired elementary school teacher was a great candidate for teaching adult ESL without relevant professional development. They were mostly a disaster in reality. ESL was seen as the bottom of the teaching barrel, - I know people who were genuinely shocked that an MA TESL/TEFL even existed! Canada thankfully instituted a law requiring a CELTA at minimum even for private language schools, so this old guard has basically dried up these days. But no way would I trade Europe for the US. Do feel for you!
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golsa



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
Back a decade ago, I saw schools in Canada where it was assumed that any retired elementary school teacher was a great candidate for teaching adult ESL without relevant professional development. They were mostly a disaster in reality. ESL was seen as the bottom of the teaching barrel, - I know people who were genuinely shocked that an MA TESL/TEFL even existed! Canada thankfully instituted a law requiring a CELTA at minimum even for private language schools, so this old guard has basically dried up these days. But no way would I trade Europe for the US. Do feel for you!


This jives pretty well with my experience thus far. ESL isn't seen as a real area in my state and there is no certification for it, but teachers who are licensed and certified in other areas can take a few classes and become endorsed to teach ESL.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Golsa:

If you haven't done so already, consider joining your state TESOL affiliate. In addition to providing professional development, it's a great way to network.
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