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toto321
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| I believe it may be the CELTA as it was taken in U.K. but I live in Canada I am wondering as to if there is a 6 month CELTA (I don't want to do the intensive). I just heard that somebody that through somebody a few people managed to get jobs in international schools with it abroad in Saudi. There is a 250 hour program in my city but that's considered too long so I am wondering what's the different lengths the course is offered in. |
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esl_prof
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Check the Cambridge CELTA website for details regarding courses and course providers in your area:
http://www.cambridgeenglish.org/teaching-english/teaching-qualifications/celta/
Basically, all you need for entry-level TESL/TEFL jobs is a brand-name certification (Trinity, CELTA, or SIT) or a generic "CELTA Equivalent" certification. Generic certifications are CELTA equivalent if they (1) are offered face-to-face, not online, (2) include a minimum of 6 hours of supervised teaching practice, and (3) are at least 120 hours long.
If you're interested in going beyond those minimum requirements, consider pursuing a DELTA or an MA degree once you've acquired a few years of post-CELTA teaching experience. A 250 hour cert, as you suggested, is overkill for an entry-level credential. |
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santi84
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: 6 month teaching English course |
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| toto321 wrote: |
| I believe it may be the CELTA as it was taken in U.K. but I live in Canada I am wondering as to if there is a 6 month CELTA (I don't want to do the intensive). I just heard that somebody that through somebody a few people managed to get jobs in international schools with it abroad in Saudi. There is a 250 hour program in my city but that's considered too long so I am wondering what's the different lengths the course is offered in. |
You can do a 6-12 month course through most universities. Each course is quite intensive but you can spread it out. You should also be aware that if you decide to do this full-time, these courses actually qualify for government loans (if money is an issue and it usually is!).
Keep in mind, 250 hours is the general standard to teach here in Canada (TESL Canada Level 2). 120 hours is the standard for most non-anglophone countries.
That being said, I have a 250 hour certificate in addition to my related degree, and I highly recommend it. Although it took a lot more time and investment than the CELTA, it makes life a lot easier once you are an actual teacher.
What city are you in? |
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esl_prof
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: 6 month teaching English course |
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| santi84 wrote: |
| Keep in mind, 250 hours is the general standard to teach here in Canada (TESL Canada Level 2). 120 hours is the standard for most non-anglophone countries. |
Good to know. Thanks for pointing that out! |
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santi84
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: 6 month teaching English course |
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| esl_prof wrote: |
| santi84 wrote: |
| Keep in mind, 250 hours is the general standard to teach here in Canada (TESL Canada Level 2). 120 hours is the standard for most non-anglophone countries. |
Good to know. Thanks for pointing that out! |
Practically speaking, a BEd with ESL specialization or MA TESOL is the real bare minimum here  |
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Scott in Incheon
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TESL Canada Level 2 is not the standard across Canada. You should check the requirements for the province you want to teach in or the one you plan to move back to.
Although, if you want to have the best chance at getting work across Canada, then the 250 course would be worth it. And there is always the chance that other provinces will go the 250 hours program. |
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santi84
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Scott in Incheon wrote: |
TESL Canada Level 2 is not the standard across Canada. You should check the requirements for the province you want to teach in or the one you plan to move back to.
Although, if you want to have the best chance at getting work across Canada, then the 250 course would be worth it. And there is always the chance that other provinces will go the 250 hours program. |
Okay, in practice, 250 hour is a standard, even level three in many places. Few schools ever consider level one (120 hour). Good luck finding a job at level one! |
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esl_prof
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: 6 month teaching English course |
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| santi84 wrote: |
| Practically speaking, a BEd with ESL specialization or MA TESOL is the real bare minimum here |
Here in the States the minimum varies from unrelated BA plus experience to MA TESOL, depending on the location, type of school, etc. No national standards here. |
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| toto321 wrote: |
| I am wondering as to if there is a 6 month CELTA (I don't want to do the intensive). I just heard that somebody that through somebody a few people managed to get jobs in international schools with it abroad in Saudi. |
Pure hearsay and highly doubtful. Don't confuse a teaching qualification (i.e., government licensure or certification to teach subjects) with a TEFL certificate. Anyway, to teach EFL in KSA, in addition to a bachelor's degree and a couple of years of relevant experience, you need a CELTA or equivalent TEFL cert. That's the minimum to qualify for a spot with some Saudi contracting companies. |
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toto321
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Well I wanted to give it a shot because through a connection that's what I was told I need myself. Not as a rule. But who knows might not get it . Why do they like CELTA in Saudi so much?
In my city they don't offer neither TEFL or CELTA. A not so known city called Saskatoon. |
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Scott in Incheon
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U of Sask has a pretty good program.
You can get a 120 hour program or 250 hour....and you can concentrate on ESL or EFL. |
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santi84
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: 6 month teaching English course |
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| toto321 wrote: |
| I believe it may be the CELTA as it was taken in U.K. but I live in Canada I am wondering as to if there is a 6 month CELTA (I don't want to do the intensive). I just heard that somebody that through somebody a few people managed to get jobs in international schools with it abroad in Saudi. There is a 250 hour program in my city but that's considered too long so I am wondering what's the different lengths the course is offered in. |
U of Sask programs are very good. If you want to teach abroad but don't want to do a long program, your best alternative is to choose a location (preferably where you want to teach) and do a CELTA there. There isn't really an in-between for someone in Saskatoon (other major Canadian cities do run the CELTA, of course).
Apparently some places do offer a part-time (12 week) CELTA, but for the amount of money and hassle of moving, you might as well just do the full-time where you wish to teach. |
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nomad soul
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| Well I wanted to give it a shot because through a connection that's what I was told I need myself. Not as a rule. But who knows might not get it . Why do they like CELTA in Saudi so much? |
The CELTA is well known throughout the world. However, Saudi employers aren't "married" to it, which is why they accept equivalent (fully onsite) TEFL certs. Take a look at actual job ads for KSA on the Café's job board to see what qualifications Saudi employers want (you have options that don't require you to make a second attempt for a CELTA). That said, it's really too soon for you to be thinking about signing up for any TEFL course at this time---you need to focus on finishing your degree first if you expect to qualify for a job as well as a proper work visa for KSA. |
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