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Message to Recruiters and Institutions of Higher Ed

 
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BajaLaJaula



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:39 pm    Post subject: Message to Recruiters and Institutions of Higher Ed Reply with quote

Westerners don't love your country....We love your MONEY. Otherwise we would stay in the WEST.

When you lower salaries, increase the workload, and cut family benefits you are only going to attract those that can't get jobs in the WEST. As economies slowly start to recover you will find fewer and fewer candidates for your jobs in KSA.

Greedy recruiters and shortsighted HR managers are decreasing the ability get quality teachers to go and work in KSA.

The veteran teachers will leave and you will be left with the following to recruit from:

1. Perpetual bachelors (not that there is anything wrong with that)

2. Recent grads with little experience, who will go just to try and pay off their school loans...again the MONEY.

3. Slackers....the lighter workload.

4. Alcoholics....love to drink the sadiqi.

5. Recently divorced...Money and solitude.

This all leads to high turnover and having to spend a considerable amount of money on recruiting instead of attracting and retaining the best teachers.

But then again.....KSA has never been known for setting long term goals.
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cnthaiksarok



Joined: 29 Jun 2012
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Location: between a rock and a sandy place

PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Message to Recruiters and Institutions of Higher Ed Reply with quote

BajaLaJaula wrote:
KSA has never been known for setting long term goals.


I'm not trolling you Baja, it's just....

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/saudi-produce-first-locally-made-car-by-2017-546955.html

http://saudi-sia.com/

http://www.nortonrosefulbright.com/knowledge/publications/61454/renewable-energy-in-saudi-arabia

http://infosaudi.sa/en/projects/


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BajaLaJaula



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sarok....you win the prize for eternal optimist....and life-long advocate for Saudi Arabia.

Let me rephrase....compared to the other Gulf countries, KSA is dead last when it comes to effective long-term planning.

A few fluffy articles don't change that.

Look at all the industry they will continue to have once the oil runs out or prices drop to the point that it starts to affect their ability to pay off the locals so they don't turn against the Royal Mafia.

From wikipedia....

The petroleum sector accounts for roughly 92.5% of Saudi budget revenues,[16] 90% of export earnings, and 55% of GDP.

Another 40% of GDP comes from the private sector. An estimated 7.5 (2013) million foreigner work legally in Saudi,[18] playing a crucial role in the Saudi economy, for example, in the oil and service sectors.

for all their money.....As of 2013, per capita income in Saudi was "a fraction of that of smaller Persian Gulf neighbors", even less than petroleum-poor Bahrain.

Saudi has not been a hotbed of technological innovation. The number of Saudi patents registered in the United States between 1977 and 2010 came to 382—less than twelve per year....insert Saudi made car here....I am sure SAUDI will be lining up to buy it...all of that National pride that they have.

The cost of maintaining the Royal Family is estimated by some to be about US$10 billion per year.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Saudi_Arabia#Future_plans
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BajaLaJaula



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saudi made car.....with Westerners managing it and Philipinos providing the labor.

Ya....abdullah....gib chai.....

yes...the future looks bright for Saudi....
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cnthaiksarok



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do know that either you or I could edit a wikipedia article, right?

Ok,..ok...I'll try it your way.


This place blows. Everyone is backwards. It's a sewer sliding back into the stone age.

Great, now I'm miserable and don't want to go to work tomorrow. Thanks a lot! Crying or Very sad


Have great one man Laughing
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BajaLaJaula



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you win on points....

something to be said about being positive.

and seeing the glass water as half full.
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plumpy nut



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Message to Recruiters and Institutions of Higher Ed Reply with quote

BajaLaJaula wrote:


The veteran teachers will leave and you will be left with the following to recruit from:

1. Perpetual bachelors (not that there is anything wrong with that)

2. Recent grads with little experience, who will go just to try and pay off their school loans...again the MONEY.

3. Slackers....the lighter workload.



All three of these qualities are already ubiquitous in English teachers in Saudi Arabia. However quality number 3 is generally what happens after a teacher realizes there really is no use to work hard for the benefit of the students. In some cases and manners it could be highly disadvantageous to your job. The important thing is to know the material even whatever details you can think of. If not the teacher is opening themselves up to the type of student that wants an "Arab teacher", or "somebody that doesn't point his shoes at us", "a teacher that doesn't appear gay", "a teacher that doesn't have thick glasses and looks dumb" etc.
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Captain Willard



Joined: 11 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: Message to Recruiters and Institutions of Higher Ed Reply with quote

Saudi Arabia doesn't want quality teachers. It doesn't really care if its students learn. It wants everything to look good by appearance. So, it looks better on paper if a teacher has a master's degree or Ph. D. None of that will matter if the students are unhappy and complain. Being too strict is a good way for a teacher to get fired, or perhaps scheduled as a substitute and then not have his contract renewed. What is important to the royal family is that the ethnic Saudi clans are happy, content, and tranquil. Education is just a tool for that purpose. Its appearance is more important than actual learning.

Salaries will only increase when fewer people take low paying offers. Too many people from English speaking countries are accepting low offers. Ultimately, the law of supply and demand rules the market.

BajaLaJaula wrote:
Westerners don't love your country....We love your MONEY. Otherwise we would stay in the WEST.

When you lower salaries, increase the workload, and cut family benefits you are only going to attract those that can't get jobs in the WEST. As economies slowly start to recover you will find fewer and fewer candidates for your jobs in KSA.

Greedy recruiters and shortsighted HR managers are decreasing the ability get quality teachers to go and work in KSA.

The veteran teachers will leave and you will be left with the following to recruit from:

1. Perpetual bachelors (not that there is anything wrong with that)

2. Recent grads with little experience, who will go just to try and pay off their school loans...again the MONEY.

3. Slackers....the lighter workload.

4. Alcoholics....love to drink the sadiqi.

5. Recently divorced...Money and solitude.

This all leads to high turnover and having to spend a considerable amount of money on recruiting instead of attracting and retaining the best teachers.

But then again.....KSA has never been known for setting long term goals.
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babur



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Location: Dammam, Saudi Arabia

PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:29 pm    Post subject: added to which there are Reply with quote

6. That shady crowd wafting their Masters in Business Administration, Management of whatever certificates, hot off the press, from universities nobody's ever heard of.
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