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Canuk girl · Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Posts: 60

This sounds odd, so I'll just say that I'm sick and tired of the crap I go through at Nova (I won't go into the dozens of problems).
So I'm going to use one of two options.. A. getting fired Twisted Evil

, or B. quitting Confused

. Now I'm wondering if anyone out there has actually been fired from Nova, what it takes, and how about Severance pay - does it exist? I've heard you get six weeks severance, is that true? And of course, do they immediately kick you out of your Nova accomodations?

I really appreciate feedback on this.. thanks so much folks. Very Happy

Gordon · Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan

You should go into a few of the problems, not from a whining perspective, but just so others who are considering working there (maybe 1 or 2 people) know what they might be getting themselves in for.

From my experience, it is always better to quit than do a lousy job and get fired. Think of your self esteem.

I don't know what Nova would do, but your contract should say something.

T-Bone · Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 33 Location: Phnom Penh

Why would you want to get fired? Why not just resign? There's plenty of opportunities in Japan that are better than Nova (it doesn't take too much to do that ).

It always looks worse if you get fired from a job, and you never know who might need to call them in the future for a reference or indication about your job performance. Getting fired won't help that.

I know all too well about the crap Nova has to dish out. And it would be great to go out with a bang, I'm sure. But if you can just grin in bear it for a month or so (I myself quit before my year was up and the contract says you need to give a month's notice) while you find new work, you'll be OK.

The fact that you hate Nova so much that you want to quit can be a real blessing for you. It will motivate you to find a better working situation, and you will then ever after enjoy your time in Japan much more. If you do a little bit of homework I'm sure you will find a much more enjoyable working situation.

Good luck!

T-Bone · Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 33 Location: Phnom Penh

Oh, to address your questions...

I'm quite sure they don't offer severance pay (especially if you're sacked) and I'm not sure about accomodations. I moved out long before I quit them (they totally gouge you on rent), but I seem to recall reading somewhere that companies can't kick you out of housing-- but that's just some dude spouting off onn the internet, and is not completely reliable info.

Chris12 · Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 98

Don't get fired! Just quit on your own terms. I will explain in detail later, first let me answer your questions.

The thought of severance pay makes me laugh. Last November, I quit working for USCOM in Saitama. I had given Sugita the owner and his manager Morgan a week notice. I am still waiting to be paid. Mad

I had quit because I was not making any money, they put me into an expensive apartment in Hanno that took a four hour round trip commute to the schools I was working at in Chichibu. Every payday they had an excuse for not paying me what was promised. Everything they had told me was a lie, they didn't even pay me the base salary they had promised. Since the labor board claims they can't do anything, I had to hire a lawyer to sue for my rages.

And of course, do they immediately kick you out of your Nova accomodations? I would imagine they would immediately kick you out.

Don't give up on Japan because of Nova or one bad company! There are many outstanding companies to work for in Japan. I changed jobs and I am so happy with my present employer that I plan on staying here working for them for many years to come. Laughing

Start looking for a good company and leave on good terms! You will need to get a few things from Nova if you change jobs in Japan.
I hope this helps you!

foster · Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 485 Location: Honkers, SARS

You CAN get fired, but it takes A LOT. They will pay you if THEY sever your contract. I don't know many details, but it happened to a guy we know in the MM Center in Osaka. I have no ideas WHY they fired him, but it took a lot.

Quit. Do not get fired..just quit. Find something else first then quit.

Nova is ok but if you feel this way, get out now. I felt that way for a long time and sadly, I stuck it out and I regret that to some extent. I am very happy now, but if Nova is driving you nuts, then I suggest finding something new and getting out before it ruins Japan for you.

guest of Japan · Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan

The one benefit to getting fired is that you can immediately begin collecting unemployment provided you have been paying into it and that you aren't foolish enough to sign anything when you get fired.

Still, it's not worth it.

canuck · Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 1921 Location: Japan

Walk into the office of your AT and say that you are dating a student and you don't care about their non socialization policy. Then tell everyone of your coworkers that you're dating a student and you don't care about the consequences. If you rock the boat, they might want to fire you.

That said, just quit and don't be a goof and try to abuse the system. Give them two weeks notice and find another job.

Iwantmyrightsnow · Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 202

If they fire you you are legally able to stay in the apartment. Nova won't tell you this of course. I know a guy in Tokyo who is doing this right now.

Canuk girl · Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Posts: 60

Thanks for the info everyone, I think I may just go ahead and quit.. as for abusing the system.. well after having Nova lie to me for 9 months (from the time I had the interview), screw with my schedule on a weekly basis, tell us teachers we have to clean the toilets, I don't see a problem with abusing the system.. maybe Nova's gone to work so hard on me that my morals are getting messed up..
Anyways.. thanks for the information, I don't think I want to stay in Japan anyways, might head home with by boyfriend when his W/H visa expires.
Thanks all

joncharles · Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 132 Location: Beijing

Nova gives you 30 days. Just like you have to give them if you decide to resign. A friend of mine got canned and they gave him 30 days.. that included the housing. on the last day of the 30 he was to be out of the Apt. However, if you have cool roomies they might let you stay until it is time for the new teacher to move in.

It doesn't really make sense.. "Your Fired," but you have to work for us another 30 days... plus they will make you use any holiday time before the 30 days are up.

Mosley · Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Posts: 158

Ha! I would've had a riot if those *beeps* had fired me but told me I had another month to work! Fuuuuuuuuuuuun!

But, to the OP:I'll join the chorus-give your 30 days notice and use your free time to sniff around for another job. But don't hesitate to get soused before your last shift....